10 Years Later, No One was able to be a Five Division Champion?

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  1. divac

    divac VIP Member Full Member

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    Mikey can become a 5 time division champ and possibly even a 6 division champ with the right matchup at a possible catchweight like Pacquiao did vs Margarito.
    ........and Mikey is'nt even remotely close to a level fighter you would pervcieve an ATG to be.


    Jorge Arce at those lower weights became a 5 time champ for crying out loud.
    At the very best Arce is a B level type champion, not remotely close to be considered with the ATG's.
     
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  2. divac

    divac VIP Member Full Member

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    I think Pacquiao may have skipped one division down below but where do you get that he skilpped a few???
     
  3. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Isn't Tanaka on three? 105, 108 and 112? 115 would be his fourth.
     
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  4. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    Yes and no. He did win belts in 8 divisions.
    I don´t see how the Ring is less legitimate than the 4 ABC´s.
    And the 150lb catchweight fight vs Margarito got him another belt.
     
  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He can win fights without his power, and he looks like he has the explosive snap which does move up with him (plus he's KOed a good few granite guys, and size doesn't make your liver tougher).

    So TBH, it's not the power I'm worried about. I'm more worried about his leaky defence and how his chin is. He can be really slippery when he's focusing on it, but it isn't as seemless as you'd want from such an offensive powerhouse and while his chin does look granite, aggression against bigger fighters can really whittle your durability down.

    Really shows how big a phenom Pacquiao is.
     
  6. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He skipped two. 115 and 118. I guess you can argue that he also skipped 108. Since he did fight there but never fought for a title. I don't buy that though. He grew out of the division incredibly quick, and he never would have been world level of he was trying to drain down to it.

    So 2 is what's probably accurate, but three is arguable.
     
  7. sasto

    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What's amazing is Pac wasn't invincible at those lower weight classes like Inoue has been, he took losses or draws all the way up and just kept going.
     
  8. IsaL

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    Check this out:

    Pacquiao became a Jr. Middleweight champion fighting at 150 lbs. against a shot fighter who was destroyed in his last championship fight at welterweight.

    Read that sentence three times.
     
  9. IsaL

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    So what if he did? Does he automatically get crowned champion there too? LOL
     
  10. IsaL

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    What did he do to deserve the JrMiddleweight title besides being a PPV seller? Beating a shot Antonio Margarito? LOL
     
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  11. Stiff Jab

    Stiff Jab Despiser of Super-Middleweights Full Member

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    I can read it ten times, it doesn't change the fact that he beat Margarito (who outweighed him by over 10 pounds) who was so 'shot' that he proceeding to go toe-to-toe with Miguel Cotto until his eye gave out (in other words, 'not shot') for a sanctioned belt by the WBC (where he weighed in equal-to-or-less-than the upper weight limit, which was his only obligation). He won titles in eight divisions, five of them lineal. You quibbling about whether it should be eight or seven or six doesn't change the fact that he did it in at least FIVE SEPERATE WEIGHT CLASSES, which was the point of this thread.

    Do you ever get tired of being utterly spanked? Because I'm starting to get tired of spanking you. I'm as kinky as the next pervert, but I need some variety in my sex-life.
     
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  12. Stiff Jab

    Stiff Jab Despiser of Super-Middleweights Full Member

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    He won the Ring Featherweight and Light-Welterweight titles which is as legit (and some would argue more so because of their adherence to 'lineage') as any of the four major sanctioning bodies, but thanks for playing. Whether you personally recognize the Ring title as 'legit' is frankly irrelevant when literally almost the rest of the world does.

    And I'm not sure what your opinion of him being a 'paper' champion at weights he experimented with and then moved on from after a fight or two has anything to do with him winning recognized straps at weight classes, but whatever.
     
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  13. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Wow, so much deflecting LOL

    So you're perfectly fine with a fighter winning a JrMW title at 150 against a fighter that doesn't deserve to be ranked at Jr.MW?

    That's corruption bruh.
     
  14. IsaL

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    He also refused random testing for many years and his head grew exponentially during that time.

    Just sayin'
     
  15. Stiff Jab

    Stiff Jab Despiser of Super-Middleweights Full Member

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    Nope, just telling you cold hard truths that leave you speechless.

    Again, if he makes weight who cares? All he has to be is 154 or less. If he comes in too light that's his problem and he has to deal with the consequences.

    Corruption? In boxing? From the WBC no less, which in wake of money-making Mexican fighters getting busted for PEDs changed their rules to let them slide on by? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you!
     
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