Anyone think Toney is lesser then Canelo in anyway?

I think you got the wrong guy mate. I think Canelo gets played with by those two.

 

And so do i

 

Canelo is a better body puncher and has faster hands

 

Canelo doesn’t look fast to me

 

Canelo has fast hands, he doesn't have fast feet, he prefers opponents to go to him

 

But you know ...so does James Toney

 

Yeah, but I'd still say Toney had better footwork than Canelo at 160lbs. His feet got worse as he moved up in weight.

 

you saw some of that in the Wolfe fight

 

I can absolutely guarantee Mayweather Jr. wouldn't have gotten in a
boxing ring with James Toney......

 

YDKSAB then

 

I view it more as Canelo having the dedication to find ways to edge these guys; Jacobs shouldn’t be left out either. Toney turned in spottier results.

 

The first two no argument, but versatility?

 

I think Canelo isn't as stubborn, and in more recent times, better on the front foot.

 

No way Canelo has faster hands than James. https://i.imgur.com/K9ZhtPm.mp4

 

They both have fast hands, it could be the same, I don't see a significant hand speed advantage either way