Dillian Whyte vs Gary Mason.

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    AJ was standing in front of Povetkin and Wlad trying to knock them out, which he did.
     
  2. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    What the hell are you talking about? AJ was never on the ropes v Povetkin and was only on the ropes v Wad for a bit because he was badly hurt, it was the fight of the year with both guys swinging haymakers, AJ wa known as a seek and destroy fighter before the Ruiz rematch with only Parker hearing the final bell, in fact he became too gung ho v Ruiz in their first clash after flooring him with lead to him eating that counter hook.
     
  3. Jamal Perkins

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    Gary mason is a far superior boxer imo...its odd but 30 years ago i felt Gary waa slow...looking at him now his hands are sharp and with tremendous snap.The win over Biggs is better than any of whyte" s overhyped wins
     
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  4. mark ant

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    No Biggs was past his best, Chisora is a better win, Mason was struggling with Biggs.
     
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    and chisora wasnt after 6 defeats and hayes street fight beating?
    It than comes down to opinion...hhhmm olympic champ biggs who threw away his career or slobbish chisora who didnt have 20% of the talent of biggs.

    Biggs didnt really have a "best" as a pro ...due to his problems but id say he was a much more skilled and better fighter in a far far tougher era ( once u take out tyson fury who is an atg hw imo ) than a guy like chisora who wouldve been domestic level in masons era.

    Its because mason was "struggling" and beat biggs in a high quality fight that i rate it as a better win than whytes defeat of chisora ..try to understand the nuance Mark....id say David Bey was better than chisora...outside the big 3 champions and ortiz and povetkin this is a very weak hw division wheras in biggs time...there is huge depth and talent.
     
  6. Big Ukrainian

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    Parker was FAR better than Biggs, Chisora was better as well. Hell, I would even go as far as saying Helenius was clearly better than post-Tyson version of Tyrell Biggs
     
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  7. Unforgiven

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    I disagree.

    Whyte and Chisora are being massive overrated here.
    Your Helenius comment is way off the mark, in my opinion.
     
  8. Unforgiven

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    Joseph Parker was good but I don't rate Whyte's "win" over him much at all.
    I thought Parker at least deserved a draw, and that was with Whyte being erroneously credit with that first knockdown.
     
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  9. Unforgiven

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    Tyrell Biggs gave Riddick Bowe a hell of a fight sometime after Mason beat him too.
     
  10. Unforgiven

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    Chisora's incredibly overrated. He's more like Everett Martin or James Pritchard level. Yeah, he might give Mason a good fight for a few rounds but he'd be outboxed and outpunched.
     
  11. Unforgiven

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    Exactly. He was slow compared to most of the elite back then but he looks better than some of the overhyped plodders we see today.
    Mason was nothing special in his day but if he was around today with Eddie Hearn et al hyping him, he'd been a multimillionaire PPV star and regarded as an elite contender.
     
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  12. Big Ukrainian

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    Don't forget that Mason barely got by Everett Martin and Mark Wills. And his stoppage against James Tillis was the most ridiculous stoppage I have ever seen in boxing. Helenius at least knocked out 3 former world champions (all past their primes but still) and KO'ed unbeated Kownacki who was considered a top-10 HW by many prior to that fight. Helenius clearly has better resume comparing to Mason
     
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  13. mark ant

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    Where was Biggs rated by the ring mag, or any of the boxing federations when Mason beat him?
     
  14. mark ant

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    Unfortunately the talented Biggs' life has been a constant fight against drug and alcohol addiction. He had to enter rehabilitation only a few months after turning professional, and some declare that his career at the time of the Tyson fight was already effectively over. Biggs' robe was sometimes emblazoned with, "Realize your potential," a drug rehabilitation mantra. An article published when he was 40 years old characterized him as "still fighting between stints in rehabilitation."
     
  15. mark ant

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    Name the 5 quickest heavies in the early 90`s.