This is so, so bizarre. I asked you what you meant by our "scoring the round together" and your response is to wander around the forum in the 4 or 5 threads repeating the fantasy that i'm "running" and refusing to "score the round with you" because i'm "ashamed". You are like some sort of wind up toy, or mentally impaired savant. I think - i think - i've gleaned from your ramblings that you want me to score round four of Toney-Tiberi again? Not so much "do it with you" as just do it, and then if i have it for Toney you'll tell me i'm wrong after? OK. Yes. I will do that. Probably on either Tuesday or Thursday. If you want to be taken seriously on this forum you do. Yeah, i'm in the minority, but a drawn card is the rarest kind of card - that's normal. Any drawn scorecard ever produced is "in the minority" by definition, because there are dozens of other potential cards - win, loss, draw. Saying it in no way undermines it as a valid opinion, and is a worthless point. Nevertheless, the number of 114-114 cards from ringside is astonishing, i've never seen anything like it. The "data" you've produced makes it very clear that a 114-114 card is at least reasonable. I've told you six times I think? Produce your card for Golovkin-Alvarez I and I'll dig mine out for you. No problem. I will not address posts of yours about a card until you have produced yours. "Every time you've called me out"? Is this some sort of joke? I've been on this forum 13 years, and you must have made a fool of yourself trying to argue with me 200 times. I've provided a scorecard for Tiberi-Toney and explained the process that brought me from believing it a horrible robbery to believing it a closer fight than I felt. Our cards differ by one round. For some reason, you are unable to assimilate this information and are obsessing over it. I've no idea what you want me to say really? And yeah, Golovkin has gone up in my estimation over the last couple of years. You think i'm lying about that for some reason? That's just a symptom of your illness as far as I'm concerned, I don't' care. "I've got nothing else to say", what on earth are you talking about? There's pages and pages of content i've produced kicking you around the forum over the past two weeks, the notion that it is all personal is pure fantasy. Yeah, if you like, it amuses me to think of you trawling through my posts trying to find contradictions separated by a decade
This is the weirdest argument I've ever seen on the internet. I don't know your guys history but maybe mute/ignore each other?
You didn’t see it live. Nobody believes you. Nobody would have watched Toney fight Dave Tiberi when they hadn’t seen him fight McCallum etc. Nobody would have watched Toney fight Dave Tiberi when they hadn’t seen any of Reggie Johnson’s fights. You couldn’t have been watching the sport back then but not have seen those other fights. It’s illogical.
You squeal like a stuck pig over this fight. It's said. Yes, I did see it live, I swear. I watched tons of boxing back then. This was NOT a PPV fight. Yoru logic is a joke! Sad. Just because one person sees fight ABC, doesn't mean he has to have seen fight XYZ. Insert the rest of you fan boy excuses here: ___________________________________________________
Yeah, you watched TONS of boxing back then, but NOT the McCallum fights or ANY of Reggie Johnson's. Seems legit.
Shocking I missed Toney vs McCallum 1 live. Big deal. The fight is fresher in my mind that yours. When was the last time you saw this fight? Who are you to say I never saw Reggie? Your a sick man, obsessing over what I saw live and did not. You are also wrong in most cases. Get some help. Here ya go. ____________________________
I didn't say LIVE did I? There's hundreds of reasons why a fan could miss a live fight. Watching it live isn't relevant to my point. You said that you only watched it for the FIRST TIME just a few months ago. You've been caught out. Nobody who watched a TON of fights back then, watched Toney fight a C class fighter, but NOT his matches with McCallum etc, until almost 30 years later. You must think people are as dumb as what you are. If you'd watched a ton of fights back then, you'd have seen Toney's big fights and the career of Reggie Johnson. You cannot have missed Reggie's career yet have seen Dave Tiberi's. You have been exposed. You are a Boxrec warrior.
Is the spin-off from the original Toney vs GGG-thread unprecedented as a spin-off on this forum? It must be, mustn't it?
Who am I to say that you have missed Reggie's career? YOU have told me that. Stop pretending that you made a typo. You didn't. You went to Boxrec and pulled Reggie's record, saw the number of losses, and then said: "Reggie Johnson was out boxed by seven people" And if you'd have seen that he'd have had 8 losses, you'd have said that he was out boxed by eight people. That's how we KNOW that you use Boxrec. Also, if you watched his career, you would actually argue that he didn't even get out boxed by SIX people. You have been exposed. You never watched his career. You've never seen the Castro fights etc. You are a Boxrec warrior.
They're all spin offs. The man will only ever find peace, if many people say: "Gennady Golovkin was better than James Toney, and he'd definitely have beaten him at any point" Until that happens, brace yourself for a Toney-Sosa or a Toney-Johnson thread.
GET HELP LOUDON. Start a go fund me for metal health, I will kick in something for you. This forum is not good for your mental health. Try to understand just because I have seen him before doesn't mean I saw him on every fight. Got it? Quoting someone's record is fine. In Johnson's case, he lost 7 times to six different men. Take it out here: _______________________________ And here: _______________!
Not that this is even remotely what this thread has turned out to be about, but I scored it 115-112 Tiberi yesterday. Wrong guy got the decision to be sure, but I've seen worse robberies than this.
