Marvin Hagler vs Mike Mccallum

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  1. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    love both of these guys. I’ve been watching a lot of mccallum lately. He became a great veteran fighter. I think he was great against a guy coming forward because he seemed to build momentum for his body shots swaying side to side. At long range Mike was still a good boxe but Hagler could just do a bit of everything at ATG level and had that determination. The extra dimension of being able to do everything either way around too.

    I think it’s a close fight. I really do. A technical fight.

    Where they ever close to fighting?
     
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  2. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    McCallum says Hagler ducked him, but Mike is a liar. Hagler retired before Mike went up to middleweight. There was never any buzz about such a matchup, nobody was ever talking about it. Its all sbout McCallum being angry about not having a massive payday from one of the fab 4. Just for the record, imo Marvin takes a clear decision if both are close to their primes. No one getting knocked out or stopped here.
     
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  3. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    McCallum was avoided, but not by Hagler, I'd have more sympathy for McCallum if he stopped banging on about it all the time
     
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  4. Unforgiven

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    Hagler wins a 15 round decision.
    It would be a good fight.
     
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  5. Bujia

    Bujia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah, same as everyone else. Mike was great. Hagler was legendary. Hagler by clear UD in a competitive fight.
     
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  6. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hagler wins a competitive decision. McCallum might be able to beat the Hagler of 86-87. Hagler’s legs and reflexes were noticeably slower in his last two fights.
     
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  7. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hagler chews him up and spits him out. Different levels.
     
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  8. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    McCallum could have Hagler s ribs sore for days after, BUT he's not beating him. Maybe the Leonard fight version of Marvin loses but at his best Hagler bangs out a decision.
     
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  9. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mccallum doesn't beat the version of Hagler Leonard defeated. He didn't have
    the speed of hand or foot Leonard had.
     
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  10. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    I'm not sure, put Hagler of just a couple of years younger in against Leonard and he catches him eventually and kos him. By his last fight Marvin had gone back a few steps. McCallum, for me had the ability and chin to maybe take Hagler best and get a decision.
     
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  11. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    At the point where Hagler was having one fight a year he was going to eventually struggle against a younger more active fighter. Mugabi was the last fight Hagler won. And John was coming up a division.. he was not a middleweight.

    As it happened it was Leonard, who was from Haglers own generation, who pipped him, but it was hardly a clean cut deal. Perhaps a younger, fresh face might just have done the same trick, perhaps more conclusively, in place of Leonard?
     
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  12. ChrisJS

    ChrisJS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I love McCallum but his gripe with Hagler not giving him a chance is pure fabrication and bitterness. Perhaps to try to add to his own mystique.

    Hagler would beat him. He wouldn’t have it easy but he’d win clearly.
     
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  13. Xplosive

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    Hagler would have won by a decisive margin.

    Just plain and simple better than McCallum.

    McCallum would be in the fight early-to-mid, but Marvin would separate himself and dominate from about the 9th to 15th.
     
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  14. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hagler UD.
     
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  15. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mike was his own worst enemy. He tried to manage himself and jumped from trainer to trainer.
    Nobody avoided him. Mike just wouldn't put himself in position to face one of the big names or would always outprice himself.
     
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