Better defensive skills: Eusebio Pedroza or Hilario Zapata?

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  1. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Between the 2 Panamanian master boxers with incredible reflexes who would you say was the more defensively skilled between the 2?
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  2. Bujia

    Bujia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    At his best Zapata was the most talented defensive stylist I’ve ever seen along with Locche. Pedroza was very good defensively, but a couple levels below.
     
  3. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Zapata.

    Pedroza wasn't that hard to hit.
     
  4. NickChristo

    NickChristo Member Full Member

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    Yea I'd put Zapata a solid notch above Pedroza when it comes to defense.
    Pedroza mixed his offense with his defense more fluidly than Zapata and 90% of boxers for that. Pure defense goes to Zapata though.
     
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  5. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Zapada but hard to compare as there styles and the way they approached the game was so different. What if Zapada appreciated the game the way Pedroza did
     
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  6. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pedroza had an excellent defense...he could slip punches as well as anyone....he could slip punches with his back against the ropes
     
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  7. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Zapata.

    Pedroza was the better fighter though.
     
  8. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pedroza could do everything but punch
     
  9. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    He could punch your balls!
     
  10. Bujia

    Bujia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Zapata could fight like Pedroza. Both went into these kind of high energy zones where they’d interweave aggressive offense and defense in a way that completely flummoxed the opponent. Against Joey Olivo he maintained that pace throughout most of the fight.
     
  11. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What were Zapata’s major flaws in your opinion ( I’ve seen like 4 of fights )
     
  12. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    I know you didn't ask me, but I've seen like 7 15 rounders from him and a bunch of others, I really like the guy. I think at his best (pre-Ursua) his biggest flaw was plain and simple: his chin. It was never glass, but never granite either. After Ursua he could be a bit passive and over defensive without maintaining a steady workrate. He could also be very inconsistent. In some fights he could look like ****, and others he could look like one of the most talented fighters ever.

    He didn't have a big punch either, but he could wear an opponent down if need be.
     
  13. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That one punch that changes your whole life ? Lol
     
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  14. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Well, yeah! He definitely didn't get as aggressive as that again. Well, not as often anyway.
     
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  15. Bujia

    Bujia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He was almost entirely lacking in power/strength and his durability was suspect at best. Combine those flaws in someone who could be a total head case and you have a recipe for Titanic level disaster.

    The fact that he went as far as he did is testament to what a miraculous talent he was. And he had longevity, which is even crazier. Especially when you look at the major setbacks he faced in the middle of his prime. To completely rebuild his career and start another title reign after moving up in weight. He really was something else.

    And I still think he was a big underachiever.