Is Lennox lucky that Ike Ibeabuchi wound up in prison?

He kidnapped his girlfriend’s 15-year-old child and ran into a wall at like 65 mph in an apparently attempt to kill himself with no regard for the child’s life. The victim will never walk normally again. Is that someone else’s fault? Was there a lie involved there?

No less than four women in two different states have accused him of sexual assault. I guess they’re all liars?

He went to prison because of his own plea to those charges, not because someone lied on the stand. If innocent he could have defended himself in court against the charges. He chose not to.

And when he was released, it was his own doing that got him busted for a parole violation. You want to blame someone else for that?

The idea that his managers were responsible for his mental illness is not just silly. Do you know what it took to get him help while he was incarcerated? A court order to forcibly medicate him because he refused to be medicated — on one hand you say he was sedated as if that’s a bad thing, but on the other you say someone else should have gotten him help (that surely would have included medication — but yeah, his managers were supposed to sweet-talk him into it and manage his mental health. I’m sure he’d have said sure — they could barely get him to show up for a weigh-in, but they’re going to get him to turn himself over to the care of a psychiatrist and make sure he takes his meds. LOL.

What about his personal responsibility to take care of his own mental health? What about his family? Is his trainer, Curtis Coke, to blame for Ike not wanting help?

We’re talking about a man who was proven to be a danger to himself and others. I’m sorry for him that he did not seek out help but it’s not someone else’s fault that he did not, that he tried to kill himself and take an innocent child with him, that he assaulted women, that he didn’t live up to his probation conditions.

Ike is responsible for his own problems.

 

Curious, but who do you feel has a better chin than McCall? I actually think Tyson belongs up there after seeing him walk through Ruddock's bombs. I think Mercer, Tua, Cobb, Ali, Chuvalo, and maybe old Foreman and Holyfield are there as well.

 

Do you mean 1996?

And I agree that Lennox fought heaps of power punchers. But he beat them because he had more skills. How do you think he fares in that stacked 80's heavyweight scene with all the Ali clones and mobile big men?

 

With all due respect You never knew the guy, I did. I was right there for most of Ike's career. The stories doing the circuit were mostly BS.
Ike & that boy were close he adored Ike went everywhere with him
As for Ike taking the plea? He had been in jail for 14 months under sedation with no charges being filed all the while they badgered him with "Take the plea you'll be back boxing in 6 months" He eventually gave in & Pleaded no contest & what happened they sold him down the river the judge gave him the max sentence 5-30 years. Yet he never put a hand on that hooker who claimed " I only came to dance for him" Yeah right!!
As for the late great Curtis Cokes he was the one guy Ike would listen to, he transformed Ike from a crude slugger to a complete Boxer puncher
Ive never said Ike was an angel or a choir boy but neither was he the monster you seem to think he was. He needed help not incarceration. I hope he gets the help he needs

 

Lesser then Ike beat Lewis, so obviously Ike has a chance but how great of a one? Going off durability and power alone is not enough to read into this one as Ike doesn’t have enough fights where he fought anything remotely similar to Lennox the least we can say is he can handle the lions power.

 

So you say Cokes was the only guy he would listen to ... yet the managers are to blame for ‘not getting him help.’ Seems like Curtis should have used that influence.

And you’re all over the place. First you say he’s no choirboy, but the stories are way overblown, but ‘he needed help.’ Why did he need help if he wasn’t mentally ill and a danger to himself and others?

You actually DEFEND HIM RUNNING INTO A RESTRAINING WALL AT 65 MPH WITH A CHILD IN THE CAR IN A SUICIDE ATTEMPT, seriously injuring the child (could have killed him) but saying ‘well that kid adored him and always went with him.’ If Ike is intending to do what he did, he would tell the child to stay behind. That’s beyond reckless ... it’s basically evil to say ‘I want to kill myself and I’m willing to take an innocent child to the grave with me.’

He chose to take the plea. You say his managers should have gotten him help for his mental illness, but then act like the courts were wrong to order it (because he REFUSED to be medicated without them being allowed to forcibly do so for his own good).

Were you in the room with the accuser and Ike? Was it a threesome? If not, how the **** do you know if he did or did not lay a hand on her. She is one of THREE that we know about who accused him of sexual assault. Two of the other three were in another state and their claims came previous to the one that landed him behind bars, so it seems unlikely they were conspiring together.

The man you’re defending has done deplorable things. He said, and I quote, “I feel women should bow to me.” And his actions followed that belief. You can, of course, believe whatever you want ... but exactly what is the basis of your belief that his accuser (and at least three others) were lying? Just because you knew him? I could give you a book’s worth of testimonials from people who knew serial killers who didn’t think they’d harm a fly.

 

You know what you read in the media I was right there the whole time Ike was training at Curtis Home of Champions gym in Dallas & BMI gym in Ft worth Texas. Do not believe all you read my friend & dont repeat it cause it can get you into deep **** easily. I understand a book is in the works covering Ike's career & troubles. The guy behind it was there the same as I was but even closer he'll tell it like it was

 

You hitting the bottle again ?

You diss Morrison every chance you get but now he is a feather in Lewis's career ? Log off.

Grant was a HBO joke, Tua was already defused by the Crazy African, Bruno got beaten like a rented hooker by a faded Tyson yet Lewis had to come from behind, Ruddock was beaten like a mule by Tyson twice,Golata fouled out twice against Bowe and it took a shot stoned Tyson a round longer to finish him off,rahman?lol, Mccall ko'ed him with his eyes closed......Vitali quit against Byrd, Holy was beyond old who in far fresher condition was beaten from pillar to post by Bowe yet Lemmie walzed 24 with Oldiefield, Trial horse Mercer whose best win was the guy you hate , Tommy Chin and stone old Coke Anonymous Tucker......the White Buffalo who again was waxed by a Tyson im personator...

Lewis had perfect timing , he fought never were's , shot previous great ones or other fighters who just took a career beating before....

Can Ike win? He looked pretty ordinary before Tua and Byrd against ham and egger opposition, but he was at least as good as Glass chinned Rahman or Pro Tyson Heavybag McCracken.......so yes if you were laid out by two nobodies with ONE shot Ike stands a decent chance......most likely Lewis will stink the joint out and run and spoil a la Oldiefield while his trunks are up to his nipples.

 

So because you were at the gym with him you know what happened when he tried to kill himself and take an innocent boy’s life along with him?

Because you worked out there, you know what happened in a hotel room in Las Vegas? Or what happened the three other times women reported him sexually assaulting them?

Why didn’t YOU get him some help? You were there. You know what was going on.

 

I think Lennox concentrating and knowing how strong Ibeabuchi was would have won a 12 round decision or late TKO.

 

Ike had impressive skills and perhaps could get lucky on a particular night. But he was a level or 2 below Lennox, who, when focused would convincingly beat Ike. So, I guess the question is would Ike beat the Lennox that was stopped twice? Perhaps. He could get lucky like the other 2 did. But would he beat the Lennox that avenged those losses? No way

 

Look you were probably 1000 miles away when all this happened I was right there. but you know better than me LOL OK believe what you will Have a nice day

 

lewis was lucky he faced a tyson over a decade past his best never mind Ike

 

Dick Tiger and Emile Griffith came pretty close to fighting everyone who was relevant in their eras. If you want an example of fighters who tried to fight everyone they are some of the best examples you can look to.

 

So you were in the hotel room? Obviously you weren’t in the car.

I’ve read accounts from plenty of people who were there — like accounts from the police report when he tried to kill himself with no regard for the child. From police reports by the accusers of sexual assault. From people in the restaurant when he drove a knife into the table because the head of HBO boxing casually asked where he lived — NONE of that is acceptable or normal behavior. So those people were there at the crucial moments that tell us about that side of him that eventually landed him in jails and prisons.

So why don’t you tell us some stories. What did you see that makes you think he was not completely off his rocker? What kinds of things did you see, honestly, that gave you pause that this guy is not right?