The Art of Matchmaking

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  1. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    As fans I think most of us want to see genine 50/50 fights. Two well matched opponents with an outcome that's in doubt until the end. Promoters and Broadcast networks want happy fans, but they also want the guy they've invested money in to win and keep winning until they're in the big money PPV and everyone gets handsomely paid. Then rinse and repeat. Boxers meanwhile would probably like to face a heavy bag with a face drawn on to it. So when it comes to matchmaking a canny promoter has to balance conflicting factors.

    The last couple of weeks one of the UK's canniest promoters has seen two of his brightest stars fail their latest tests. Much hyped Daniel Dubois was unable to cope with Joe Joyce's reliable, but unremarkable heavy jab. Then Anthony 'The Beast from the East' Yarde lost to Lyndon 'King' Arthur, again unable to come up with an answer to a fast and accurate jab and little else.

    It's got me thinking about matchmaking and how so often it proves the downfall of a promising prospect/hypejob. Sometimes you watch a fighter and think that there's been a lack of progression, they've taken too many 'stay busy' fights at a lower level and aren't able to cope with opponents that test their technique, speed, stamina or boxing IQ. At other times we see guys get an opportunity to step up a level and they seize it with both hands and prove themselves.

    Everyone makes a mistake at some point, but getting this balance of progression and learning whilst making money in the interim and being able to take opportunities when they come is clearly as much an art as a science. Mayweather for instance managed to pick his opponents very cleverly, maximised return for minimising risk. His matchmaking was as good as his boxing and he was of course a hell of a boxer.

    So who are the masters of the art of matchmaking? Which promoters or managers managed to play the system to best effect for their guys and which failed to make the most of their talents due to either being too ambitious or not ambitious enough?
     
  2. El Gallo Negro

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    it all went down hill after Don King retired.
    much like Trump he's the guy everyone loves to hate, but once he's gone everyone's looking around complaining how things ain't like they used to be
     
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  5. jaytxxl

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    When I think of bad matchmaking I immediately think of Darnell Boone (24-24). That guy KO’d Adonis Stevenson, almost KO’d Kovalev and dropped Andre Ward. He could have been a titleholder with something like a 34-4 record if he had the right backers. Instead he took a lot of short notice fights with no training camp and racked up a lot of losses. A lot of these guys with 1 to 5 losses would have much more if not carefully matched..

    Top Rank is able to prevail as a company because they have perhaps the greatest matchmaking when bringing up prospects. If you’re a prospect in the US that is the company to sign to
     
  6. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    GBP at one point had a good formula as well.
    They built up a prospect, then gave them a big test. If they passed, they kept building.
    If they failed, they rebuilt.
    Victor Ortiz is a great example.
     
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    In case you didn't know about anything outside your bubble, most people don't mind Trump and many love him.
     
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  8. Holler

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    Thank you for rescuing this from the thread graveyard! :wave: Don King knew how to sell a fight and build a fighter, sadly too many of those guys came out badly on their dealings. That's the main reaon I don't miss him.

    That's the thing about matchmaking, if done well it's the difference between a guy finishing his career as a champion with multiple signature victories or a record like Boone's. There's a lot of guys that have the credentials, most or all of the gifts required, but either through financial neccessity, or sometimes because it suits the promoter, they damage their career and suddenly they're in every promoters phone as the guy to call at short notice and it doesn't matter if you lose because you're going nowhere with those 6 defeats on your resume....
     
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    I don´t do bubbles, but bubbles and poor education are what made Trump possible in the first place. Not really my problem tho, in Europe Trump and his followers are just a bad joke.
     
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  11. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    One of the better matchmakers for young fighters, in my opinion, was Angelo Dundee.

    He picked Muhammad Ali and Sugar Ray Leonard's early career opponents. He put them in with a multitude of styles and got them to a title shot in a little less than four years.

    He nearly did it again with "Quick" Tillis, who was far less talented and was matched a little softer, but Tillis lost a 15-round decision to Mike Weaver less than three years into his career.

    If Tillis hadn't been rushed a little early by his promoter to block a Cooney-Weaver fight in '81 and stuck to Dundee's timetable, he may have been ready in 1982.
     
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  14. The Real Lance

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    Top Rank was the best at matchmaking. They knew how to bring up young prospects. GBP tried t copy the formula, but weren't as good.
     
  15. Forza

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    The rise of brexit, nigel farage, matteo salvini, marine le pen, geert wilders says otherwise
     
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