The Classic Boxing Myth Thread

The Marciano Training Myth was thoroughly debunked by contemporary reports.... Note: Not Peter Marciano's rantings, not the embellished accounts from people who weren't yet born.... I know the bootstrap crowd loves the stories about Marciano's work ethic overcoming all those more talented, lazy fighters... And perhaps this dispels another myth, that Marciano wasn't a really talented fighter.

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...rcianos-diet-and-workout-regimen-1952.616023/

 

Get over it. Your boy lost because he employed a bad strategy and decided to give away rounds fighting orthodox.

I’m a Leonard fan. And a Duran fan. And a Hagler fan. And a Hearns fan. Benitez too.

But YDKSAB if you think the referee is supposed to deduct points for innocuous fouls. That’s what warnings are for. REPEATEDLY committing the SAME foul after being warned, or intentional fouling of consequence results in point deductions.

They both landed punches after the bell (see the third round for instance) — take away a point each?

A few non-serious low blows on the beltline didn’t sap Marvin. If they did, he’s a wallflower. Borderline and non-intentional low blows happen all the time. I didn’t see MMH bent over grabbing his jewels, taking a knee and asking for a 5-minute rest.

Nothing that happened in that fight should have resulted in point deductions. Just because you want a guy to win doesn’t mean they change the rules to suit you. If that scares you, don’t discuss it lol.

 

“Everyone was doing steroids back then.”

 

NOT EVEN IN TOP 50

 

I'd love to see sources in the contemporary press quoting odds, aside from that one bookmaker. In hindsight, it seems like Foreman would be a big favorite. But looking at the two UPI articles I referred to, sourced from the Montreal Gazette, the fight was seen as more of a toss-up going in.

 

I'm pretty sure i chased this down many years ago but can't seem to find it. I'll keep an eye out.

 

Top find. I'm quite surprised.

 

Yeah SD has provided a top article on this.

 

The idea that Billy Conn was beating Joe Louis by running all night and then got stopped because he changed his strategy late in the fight is also a myth.

 

SD?

 

Solomon Deedes.

 

Is there any other loss that traumatised a fighter's fans as much as Hagler's to Leonard? I thought I'd seen it all on that subject, but that Leonard should be DQ:d!? It just keeps on coming.

 

The June 18 1963 knockdown of Muhammad Ali against Henry Cooper. Many experts back then were insisting that Ali had a glass jaw. Well the knockdown was very legitimate, but if you were young and boastful, fighting someone in their backyard, you might come on as wanting to shame their hero. I think that Ali was toying with a fighter with one of the best left hooks and got put on the seat of his pants, almost knocked out. But when they fought again on May 21 1966, again in England, Ali returned as World Champion. He avoided that left hook, did not suffer a knockdown this time, and gave Henry Cooper 14 stitches over the eye, Ali by TKO 6. It was one of the bloodiest beatings that I saw live on television back then, on ABC's Wide World Of Sports. Lesson learned for Ali, never toy or play with someone with a deadly left hook again.

 

2 Myths about Mike Tyson that should have been debunked years ago

1) He had bad stamina
Just watch his fights with Tillis, Green, Ribalta, Tucker & Ruddock 2 II to squash that silly claim.

2) He would fold if you weren't afraid of him
Contrary to popular belief, most of Tyson opponents were not that afraid of him. Tillis, Green, Berbick, Thomas, Tucker & Biggs certainly weren't, yet he still walked through them or beat them decisely. Holmes (despite his age & inactivity) did not seem too afraid of him.

Neither did Tubbs, who fought a very good 1st Round. The only ones who were truly petrified were Spinks, Bruno, Williams & Seldon - & even Bruno managed to wobble Tyson in the 1st Round & put up a decent effort in the fight.