Will AJ ever get his respect?

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  1. kobashi

    kobashi Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilder would be knocked out by AJ in brutal fashion before he lands any clean one two
     
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  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Depends what you want him to be respected as.

    He's a very good unified belt holder, no one doubts that.

    But if he wants respect as the best HW in the world he has to go through Fury.
     
  3. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Oh, he won to an old 40 years old granpa with a laughable ko rate. Let's give him respect!

    you kidding, right?
     
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  4. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    yes, sure, man. hahahahah, then you wake up.

    The AJ who fought tonight loses to both. To fury, and to wilder.

    And to win to an unmotivated ruiz he'd have to run another marathon avoiding fighting at all cost. Vs a motivated ruiz probably he loses too.
     
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  5. tealt

    tealt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I doubt AJ would even try that. He seemed to almost punch himself out in the third. If he tries for it and fails he could open himself up.
     
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  6. OBCboxer

    OBCboxer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He has to fight Fury and beat him, or at the very least, show that he’s on his level. I think he looked good tonight despite what some are saying on here. Showed good patience and never got reckless in there like he did with Ruiz. Stayed composed when he had his man hurt and closed the show when the time was right.
     
  7. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    AJ has no Chin, no Heart, and no Ring IQ. None.
     
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    AJ's a good fighter and it was a decent performance but I wasn't particularly impressed by that. Pulev is tough and game but he's old, extremely basic and lacking in variety, and not a big puncher. However, despite that AJ fought very cautiously even though Pulev wasn't offering much in the way of offence other than a jab and a very occasional right hand.

    Now go compare Fury's performance in the rematch against the Tuscaloser to that. The Tuscaloser, like Pulev, is extremely basic and lacking in variety (jab, right hand) but unlike Pulev is young, in his prime and can take your head clean off at any second of the fight. Fury walked him down and beat the soul out of his body in his backyard despite the fact the threat he posed him with his right hand was infinitely greater than the one Pulev's posed and that wasn't even a full strength version of Fury either.
     
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  9. GasTank

    GasTank New Member Full Member

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    Yeah I think AJ's more pensive style isn't just about the glass jaw but also gas tank management.

    I think the AJ we watched tonight is more the one will see moving forward. Not the one that was on his bicycle 100% of the time like Ruiz II but waiting for opportunities to let his hands go like he did in the 3rd and 9th.
     
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  10. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Think this was a good 9 rds under his belt and a confidence builder. The Ruiz KO still seems to play on his mind a bit, but he played it well enough. No need to push things when he has control behind his jab. Showed maturity when he didn't get Pulev out of there, kept patient and took the chance when it presented itself again.
     
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  11. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No because the so called "hardcore" fans will never give credit to a Matchroom fighter and treat boxing promotional companies like a football team for some reason.
     
  12. piprules

    piprules Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Best resume of any current heavyweight by far.
     
  13. RB1702

    RB1702 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I’d love to have seen Fury and Wilder fight Joshua’s opposition in the order AJ fought them in. Glass jaw Wilder would have been slept by a few guys and Fury’s too inconsistent he’d have lost after fighting back to back top guys.
     
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  14. GasTank

    GasTank New Member Full Member

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    There is no question Fury is a better fighter than Wilder. Fury would have won the first fight if not nor taking that second knockdown in 12th. Beat Wilder with 2 completely different styles.

    The question is Joshua versatile enough for Fury or Uysk for that matter. It definitely makes those fights intriguing as to how they'll play out.

    Some of the inverse things being asked like can Wilder take Joshua's power when he couldn't take Fury's have an obvious answer at this point.
     
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  15. GasTank

    GasTank New Member Full Member

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    I'd take Wilder's jaw over AJ's as AJ seems to get rocked all the time in championship level fights.

    But how would Wilder handle a guy like Ruiz? He has a granite chin. I know AJ put him down once but he got back up and finished the fight.

    That is the kind of fight Wilder should go for if he had any nerve. Instead he's pulling a Donald Trump and dragging on Fury-Wilder until the last lawsuit goes down. Wilder-Ruiz could be hyped and it would be a PPV level contest.
     
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