So, what do y'all think of AJ vs Usyk, now?

A.J ofc looks that is golden goose. Sadly he is also large goose.
A.J so called by his fans marquee wins were:
OLD MEN:
41 year old Klitschko
39 year old Pulev
39 year old Povetkin
NOT OLD:
27 year old Whyte
26 year old Parker. VS golden goose. With funny hometown ref. Hometown golden goose, protected cash cow.
29 / 30 year old Ruiz. Nice loss via finish and then vuala, win on points. Goose is happy.

...... old men make up a large part of this "notable wins" but people still talk up his resume.
Before ppl will **** on Ruiz, Ruiz had lost to Parker in New Zealand on cards: 115:113, 115:113, 114:114.
Golden goose fought Parker not in New Zealand but in his backyard with nice ref. Hometown A side cash cow. Protected golden goose.

/ Of course Usyk is not going to win this clown on cards.
Not likely he is capable to stop this large cash cow.

Boxe is a lot about physicality and not likely Usyk will stop this golden goose.

This if funny for boxing fans, lol, how good boxer A.J is etc.

He is not and large size doesn't makes cash cow into somoene like Floyd.
He is just large cash cow in backyards.

 

I'd say 215 with intensive training since that's his fighting weight. 200 is his boiled down contract weight.

Doesn't Gassiev walk around at 250 or something (albeit a fat lump)? And God knows what Guillermo Jones weighs when not in training. Anyone at around six two upwards that isn't a complete beanpole isn't small by any means.

 

He is too big and Usyk will not defeat him.
This still does not change my opinion: he is not so good boxer as ppl think. He is worse than Lewis, considerably worse.
All resume marquee wins vs old uncles. Hometown protected fighter.

Ok, large bodybuilder type body.
Boxe is about physicality a lot but this doesn't means that A.J isn't boxer with average level skills.
A.J is average boxer. Nothing more.

 

I can see Joshua's uppercut being a dangerous weapon against Usyk, particularly the way he hits and holds with it, and his spearing jab might cause him problems if he can get his timing down. But aside from that what physical advantages does he have that would translate on the night?

Chisora showed us that Usyk needs to use a lot more movement against come forward stalkers. Fights against Joyce, Takam or Ruiz would likely look the same. It doesn't tell us much about how he does against Joshua because Joshua doesn't fight like those guys. Usyk will be able to stand in the pocket a lot more.

When you dominate a division below you get certain fastracking when you move up. That's how it's always been.

 

I think you have to stop Joshua to beat him. Like Lennox Lewis. I don't see Usyk doing that. By the late rounds, the angry bodybuilder will start walking down that puny cruiserweight, and have his way with him. Ruiz can crack if he gets fighters in his short t rex arm range. He had the inside attributes to beat Joshua.

 

boxer might even not dominate ( Usyk did not dominated CW for long time at all. short reign and short pride period ).
When the boxer moves weight class up or down, his previous ranking impacts ranking in new division.
If one is ranked in top 10-12-15 under boxing org ( there are these alphabet letters orgs ), he in new division climbs up faster.
Therefore Usyk is ranked so highly HW despite did just 2 fights.

 

bodybulider golden goose does have shitty gas tank.
He most likely will play point game 12 rounds ( he will not lost on hometown cards ).
Maybe another gameplan: large bodybuilder will rush on him with 101% since first opening bell, press, maul and pull him and handle out max possible workrate and output.

A.J still is nothing much impressive, just large bodybuilder. Will he beat Usyk? Most likely yeah,
Will this make him good boxer? Nope, just large cash cow.

 

I've never thought this was an easy fight for Joshua. Usyk's movement gives him problems and I can see Usyk moving in and out of range and scoring, especially vs a Joshua who's more cautious and conservative with his output.

But Joshua is always capable of suddenly moving through the years and ending a fight and as durable as Usyk is he's never faced power like Joshua's.

I honestly can't decide, logic says Joshua is too big, too powerful and at some point blast Usyk out but a part of me thinks Usyk's style is too problematic for Joshua and he can win a decision or even force a late stoppage if Joshua goes for broke late in a fight he's losing and gasses out completely.

 

"A tough veteran"


I beg to differ.

 

You're absolutely correct, spot on, 100%.....


Because Usyk wouldn't just stand there like a f'ing statue and allow AJ to hit him with 3 or 4 uppercuts in a row.

 

Usyk is just too good of a boxer to have AJ beat him by boxing him and given AJ's reluctance to go all out over his past couple of fights I suspect that Usyk dances around him getting clipped occasionally but taking enough of the sting to not be dropped and winning convincingly on points. Although considering I had Kuzmin up and Bakole got the win it's going to be a big ask to have the judges go against AJ.

 

It’s not that Usyk doesn’t have the skill set he just doesn’t have the size. Pulev is an inch taller and about 30lbs heavier then Usyk and he looked small next to AJ. I just don’t think Usyk will be able to handle the physicality of it, or too many flush power shots... I mean anything is possible but he would have a serious uphill battle.

 

AJ and Wilder are the heavy hitter killers in the HW not to take away from Fury KO over Wilder but that was an accumulation of punches.

I think AJ still has that power to KO anyone just like Wilder. The bottom line is who can survive and like @CST80 pointed out the boxer always has the upper hand for the long game.
I think it’s still a 50/50 fight because the smaller man is still the more talented boxer

 

I think the size and power is just too much.