Has the man to beat Tyson Fury been born yet?

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wilder only needed 2 punches to land in their first fight. imagine of he had landed 3.
the thing about big guys like Fury, they're not used to taking it in the chin and they dont handle it all that well.
the K brothers all had that wide eyed surprise look anytime someone touched them up on the inside.

on the flip side, Fury is notorious for fighting obscure, second and third tier opponents. as long as he stays away from AJ and continues to stall rubber match with Wilder, he could indeed reign a very long time to come

 

Fury is the best in a weak division. His resume is not as good as Joshua's at the moment, in my opinion.
However, I think Fury beats AJ when they meet. Joshua has developed a plan B since his loss to Ruiz, which could serve him well & will be a 'live' underdog.
Fury always seems to find a way to pull through though.
Will he retire undefeated ?
Probably, as he won't go on long enough to really test himself. A 38 year old Gypsy King would surely come unstuck.

 

The talented Page and Tucker had the ability and skills to be elite if they were not it was down to the lack of desire and application. Cooper and Bonecrusher Smith clearly less gifted and talented than the aforementioned 2.

 

These types of threads are embarrassing. The man got dropped by Pajkic and Cunningham. He’s not invincible ffs.

 

He's not? John Fury told me he was.

 

Fury is clearly the best but there's a lot of fighters that can beat him if things go their way on the night. Example is Wallin, although Fury was far superior, the fight could legitimately have been stopped for the cut.

 

Fury got hit with a monster left hook after he got up....

so get out of here with your hypothetical NONSENSE

 

No fighter is un beatable, period.

Fury will be stopped , fact, and most likely by someone who had zero chance on paper

 

CWs and very small HWs dropped and defeated Ali... and he's "the greatest".

But Wilder has the best one punch KO among all the current HWs. Or did he until Fury beat him?

Wlad was the MAN for better part of a decade. Yes, a younger Wlad would've done better, most likely won. We will never know.
The first two were just after Fury came back from drug, psychological problems and pushing 400#. The other two were stay busy fights between Wilder 1 & 2. I've read many of your posts, you know better than this.

 

No.

 

Has nothing, zero to do with the topic of Tyson Fury. This is whataboutism and it’s irrelevant.

Which is why I mentioned Wilder having zero fundamentals. Wilder cannot properly feint/move/trap opponents to set them up for his right hand. He simply throws it and if it connects great. This is why Wilder avoided mandatories and an old Ortiz schooled him until it landed.

Fury loves to put stock in his LINEAL! title. He was the lineal champion and defended it against gobshite opponents because he came back out of shape from his drug use and hitting the buffet. These were choices he made, to abuse drugs and himself. He also determined what shape he was in when HE HIMSELF chose to comeback. You are saying his choice to come back out of shape should excuse him from fighting decent opponents?

Stay busy fights and a tune up before a title fight are different things. After the first Wilder fight, Fury boxed against little threat opponents and screwed off in the WWE instead of facing any real threats that could derail the second fight. He played it safe and smart. However the reasons behind why don’t excuse him. The best fight the best. The rest is business and politics.

I like Tyson Fury but no matter how you look at he has two good wins, good not great, over an old Wlad where Fury only landed eighty six punches, seven punches a round, in twelve rounds. Also over Wilder, which as I said took nineteen rounds.

I sorry you think I know otherwise, I don’t. Fury has had problems against Wilder in the first fight and Otto Wallin after that.

He is currently the best heavyweight, this could speak of his greatness or the current state of the heavyweight division.

 

I think Tucker, Page, and Pinklon Thomas all ruined what could have been great careers with their lack of discipline and drugs. The late 70s and 80s were such a weird time for boxing. So many iffy champs like Gerrie Coetzee, John Tate, Mike Weaver, Trevor Berbick, Tim Witherspoon, Michael Dokes and Tony Tubbs. Hell the 90s had Michael Bentt and Francesco Damiani too.
The debate on who's the worst heavyweight champ of each decade always intrigued me. There are so many with a good shout for it.

 

The topic more than tangentially touches the topic of great HWs. Many here consider Ali a demigod.

Generally agree. But even now some here think Wilder is at worst a top 3 HW.

I think you're too hard on Fury. I also don't think this is a bad era. You're not one of those that thinks it's a bad era unless US HWs are dominating? If you do, we have more to agree to disagree on.

 

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