Would Frazier Bring Down Iron Chinned Vitali?

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Who wins?

  1. V. Klitschko?

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  2. J. Frazier!?

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  1. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    VK does not man handle ANYONE......he 1-2's you from range while leaning back....he has no inside game, none, if Frazier can get inside on Ali he can get to VK

    I have met prime VK face to face, he is tall but not physically imposing, full stop, he is close to a bean stick.........I have also met George Foreman , Tyson and Riddick Bowe and all of them were physically imposing......
     
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  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Sure. Joe Frazier is going to back up Vitali Klitschko. I really wish we could see this match
     
  3. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I have finally solved the mystery !!!

    I think the reason why people are picking joe Frazier is because the name Vitali Klitschko in Ukrainian is Ron stander !!! Damn I’m good !!
     
  4. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I am no Joe frazier fan,,,,,

    The two best fighters VK met he lost to......

    On more time, VK has no inside game and no uppercut......his only way of winning this is staying outside for 15 because he aint got the tools to do it inside, full stop.

    Yes if he can peck away 1-2 for 15 on his bike he can win this .........but the only person who beat Frazier on the inside or close to is Foreman who beat him with brute power..... once in a life time.power and a kill or be killed fighter like Foreman VK is not
     
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  5. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Vitali wasn’t the outside boxer that Ali was or the puncher that foreman was. So I can see your logic. But he did in fact have some attributes of both along with size, strength and durability. I don’t see Frazier just having his way with Klitschko. That fight is going to go a lot of rounds and regardless of how well he slips shots he’s still going to get hit. Those punches will have a cumulative effect
     
  6. KidDynamite

    KidDynamite Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You do have a point with the second part of the comment but its not too relevant.

    Frazier isn't going to be intimated by anyone either way. The man was a lion but I don't see him beating Vitali ... hes going to get battered coming in.
     
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  7. THE BLADE 2

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    they did not have much effect on Byrd though
     
  8. dinovelvet

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    Now you're acting like Vitali was the only HW in history to work behind a 1-2. . You couldn't differentiate between Vitali and Bugner in terms of skill because you couldn't.
    All you pointed out was size which I had already mentioned was the only difference between the two. Joe was a basic boxer by numbers who worked behind the 1-2. So was Vitali.
    Bugner was a bit looser and his 1-2 was tighter and quicker. Frazier overcame that style comfortably. . Who did Vitali beat that was like Frazier? The answer is nobody.
    The guys Vitali beat were all slow come forward plodders who were hand picked to make him look good.
     
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  9. dinovelvet

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    Byrd backed up Vitali with body shots. . Spare me the excuses. . Vitali fought again that very year and it wasn't against Chris Byrd who was under Universum contract. . That tells you he had Byrd problems , not shoulder problems.
    Furthermore , Vitali was visibly exhausted when he thew in the towel. . A result of body shots. . Loma popped out his shoulder against Lopez , he came on stronger in the late rounds.
    You can fight on with injury. You can't fight on with a depleted gas tank
     
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  10. dinovelvet

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    Vitali wasn't quick enough on the trigger to batter Frazier. . He is a straight line puncher. .Joe comes in at angles. . Angles beat straight lines.
    It would look like Tyson vs Tucker and of course Frazier vs Bugner
     
  11. Unforgiven

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    You do realize that Vitali was a boxer who often boxed on the back foot ?
    That was when he was at his best.
     
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  12. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Vitali was better than both Bugner and Tucker. And the physical advantages he’d have over joe Fraizer would be even more significant. Vitali also fought to win. Tucker and Bugner fought to survive
     
  13. mr. magoo

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    Which would be advantages against a man who relied heavily on trying to back people up with the hopes that they COULDN’T fight off the back foot
     
  14. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Vitali was kicking Byrd’s as despite fighting with an injured arm since the first round and Byrd had nothing in common stylistically with Joe Frazier.
     
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  15. sauhund II

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    You are contradicting yourself...............he quit against Byrd............how can be that called "fought to win" ? He quit!!! End of.......Tucker never quit even when totally washed up..............and a old Lewis with one foot out the door carved him up lik ea Thanksgiving turkey......cuts in the mouth ...lips...nose. over and under the eye.....cuts on the tongue....pretty much every punch Lewis landed caused significant facial damage.

    Conclusion: when the going gets rough VK quits or his paperskin gives out.........or he has endless injuries which prevented the Glass cannon Rahman fight..............it stands to reason that frazier stops VK on injury too.
     
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