Which of Hagler`s world title challengers would crack the top 10 middle ratings now in their primes?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I feel Hagler`s era at 160 was better than today`s middleweight division in terms of depth and quality, which of the fighters that challenged for Hagler`s crown (including Ray Leonard) would have crack today`s 160 ring mag ratings?

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    GENNADIY GOLOVKIN
    IBF
    COUNTRY: KAZAKHSTAN
    40-1-1 (35 KOS)
    WEEKS ON LIST: 471
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    JERMALL CHARLO
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    COUNTRY: U.S.
    31-0-0 (22 KOS)
    WEEKS ON LIST: 177
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    DEMETRIUS ANDRADE
    WBO
    COUNTRY: U.S.
    29-0-0 (18 KOS)
    WEEKS ON LIST: 162
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    SERGIY DEREVYANCHENKO
    COUNTRY: UKRAINE
    13-3-0 (10 KOS)
    WEEKS ON LIST: 193
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    RYOTA MURATA
    COUNTRY: JAPAN
    16-2-0 (13 KOS)
    WEEKS ON LIST: 80
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    KAMIL SZEREMETA
    COUNTRY: POLAND
    21-0-0 (5 KOS)
    WEEKS ON LIST: 83
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    Eubank Jr UK
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    ROB BRANT
    COUNTRY: U.S.
    26-2-0 (18 KOS)
    WEEKS ON LIST: 113
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    LIAM WILLIAMS
    COUNTRY: U.K.
    23-2-1 (18 KOS)
    WEEKS ON LIST: 52
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    JAIME MUNGUIA
     
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  2. Eye of Timaeus(2)

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    He made 14 title defenses 13 successfully. Out of those 14 opponents all of them would crack the top 10.
    Hearns: Potential to beat everyone but I see Golovkin stopping him.
    Leonard: Same with Hearns above
    Mugabi: Absolute monster in his prime but i see him getting stopped by GGG in a war. Andrade gets hit too often to win and Charlo isn't really that great
     
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  3. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Literally all of them
     
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  4. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Damn near everyone (03) proven ATG'S in Hearns, Duran and Leonard. Fighters like Sibson, Hamsho -x2 , Mugabi
    Roldan, whom were good enough to be ranked in any era.
     
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  5. Roughhouse

    Roughhouse Active Member Full Member

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    Scypion would probably make it, as would Fully Obel. Not sold on the bottom half of that list up above.
     
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  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    You don’t even need to beat a good fighter to make the 10. All of them could be in the ten.
     
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  7. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    All of them would be top 1-2.
     
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  8. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    2 maybe but Only Hearns and Leonard would have stood a chance v Canelo.
     
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  9. BrutalForeman

    BrutalForeman Active Member Full Member

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    He also beats SRL, if the judges aren't corrupt / high
     
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  10. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    The only reason I would differ with the consensus about the quality of fighters from these respective eras is weight.
    If it is day before weigh ins, the fighters of today would have the advantage, because they tend to be bigger & heavier in the ring.
     
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  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Hamsho vs. Murata is a weird fight to ponder on..
     
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  12. Frankus

    Frankus Active Member Full Member

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    I disagree. Durán would beat Canelo handedly. Canelo would be hit so many times he’d think he’s surrounded.
     
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  13. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I didn`t think Leonard look that great v Hagler compared to his prime at welter.
     
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  14. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    I like today’s middleweights but the division really isn’t stacked
     
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  15. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Canelo`s defense is better than anybody that Duran fought at 160 or above except Hagler, Leonard was pretty gone in his boring third match-up v Duran.
     
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