AJ v Pulev looks around 800k ppv buys

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  1. Furious

    Furious Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Will never happen but a good use of public money from a morale point of view would be a few huge free to air sporting events and concerts on terrestrial tv.

    When it’s safe the government will need to encourage the public to get out and spend money again. The government paying for this event to be free to air on public tv would help with that.

    Obviously it’ll never happen, but would be a more effective use of public funds than dodgy PPE contracts.
     
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  2. Trafford

    Trafford Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So e lost no buys for a b level opponent with an £5 increase generating £4m for income to make up for the gate. Smart move really
     
  3. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    800,000 buys = 800,000 mugs.

    What can you do but smile, laugh and shake your head?
     
  4. Trafford

    Trafford Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How would fighters get paid in your eyes? If it wasn’t for PPV most fights would never happen
     
  5. The Townsend

    The Townsend Zeus. Full Member

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    800k for Pulev? Jesus people really do enjoy watching AJ fight.

    I wonder If he wasnt a knockout artist as such, would he receive the same amount of viewers?

    And surely It cant be 29.99 for AJ fury, they arent exactly the ATG going at It
     
  6. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    "If it wasn't for PPV most fights would never happen" is a fallacy which only exists because the consumer is duped by the promoter and all associated marketers, with the mugs being so indoctrinated that any other outcome leaves them stood with their pants down, with egg on their face. In other words, if the mugs were to accept the truth, then they would also have to accept that they have needlessly blown X £. The consumer would rather believe that it is a necessary operational cost and that they are not funding X, Y and Z's latest mansion, yacht or supercar (more likely a combination of which, multiplied). Therefore, the fact that mediocre bouts are on pay-per-view is simply because they can be, because the mugs are happy to pay.

    My thoughts are posted in the link below.

    [url]https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/aj-vs-pulev-£24-99.658840/page-13#post-20765016[/url]

    The mugs will see it as "only a fiver more than Pulev - that's not bad".
     
  7. "TKO"

    "TKO" Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Spot on with all of that.

    The fights would happen, the fighters would just be paid a lower fee (though still a fortune to the average working man) and said working man would not have to fork out AGAIN when they are already paying for what is supposed to be a premium sport service.

    I have watched the development of PPV boxing in the UK and it is exactly the mug attitude like that which has led to the situation we now find ourselves in. When PPV boxing was first introduced, it included half a dozen world title fights across ten hours from UK and US. You'd have cards like Calzaghe- Robin Reid, with Mickey Cantwell and Richie Woodhall in world title fights on the undercard, then cross to the states from Delahoya-Quartey and the likes of Erik Morales on the undercard. It was premium quality stuff and in the pre-streaming days the fee was justified since Sky had to buy the rights from Showtime/HBO and we were seeing fights we'd never get to see otherwise. Sky was doing its job and providing premium quality sport.

    Regrettably, like most things, as soon as Sky worked out that people were willing to pay for it, the whole thing just became a money making racket. They introduced UK-only cards on PPV and justified it on the grounds that there were still several title fights (albeit more going into the promoters' pockets). Then as soon as they worked out the mugs were willing to keep paying for it, fees went up and quality went down. Then PPV started being used as a tool to attract big name Olympians like Khan and Joshua to sign with them. The suits tell them 'we'll make you a PPV fighter' and they end up paying fortunes to attract them and sticking them on PPV at the first opportunity (Khan-Prescott and Nicky Cook-Alex Arthur for Chrissakes). Meanwhile, because they are paying the headliner so much, the budget for the undercard goes down and down and rather than several world title fights, you end up with an undercard full of domestic bouts, prospects against nobodies and women's bouts (not that I'm being chauvinistic, but the women come cheaper).

    What they did with Joshua was typical. His fight with Whyte was part of a big bill including several good fights (Mitchell-Barroso, Eubank-O'Sullivan), any of which would have made a decent headliner. But they put Joshua on top. Then the seed is sewn in the eyes of the mugths that 'well Joshua's a pay per view fighter' and that any old sh1t involving him has an automatic right to be on PPV. Meanwhile, you've got the likes of Chisora and Whyte, mediocre fighters who happen to be lucky enough to be 240lbs, seeing the money Joshua is on and wanting some for themselves and so it goes on. It's basic price elasticity of demand and until the 'only the price of a Dominos' brigade actually grow a brain and stop fuelling this nonsense then it is not going to stop.
     
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  8. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Many people thank god have beat me to it in debunking this ridiculous notion
     
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  9. Twentyman

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    Just makes me feel fed up that those 800k people who have bought the event have given the thumbs up to the suits and justified that price for such a poor card.
     
  10. Trafford

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    From your post it appears you are asking sportsmen to do it for less money.

    get punched in the head for a living and don’t do it on PPV for which there
    Is clearly a market. Because corporate partners would subside you for which there is little to no evidence otherwise they would all be doing it.

    let’s be honest if your kid was a top fighter and was grafting and getting beat to a pulp for a living and someone said thousands would pay £20 to watch you fight and you would earn a few million. We all know your time would change in a heartbeat. It’s the normal response don’t like it done watch it. All the while there are 800,000 buyers for something I am sure the promoters and fighters will maintain they are doing something right.
     
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  11. Trafford

    Trafford Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If everyone thought like you then there would be no market and in turn you would be correct. However judging by the amount of money buys invoked seems you are Miles off and living for the good old days .

    the premier league cost is what has driven the sky price model. There’s not enough to go around as they eat the pie. However if a fighter is on a £2m purse and to do that it’s on PPV to get his head punched in like Dillon Whyte for example if his last fight. Fair play to him. He’s earnt it.
    If he didn’t no one would buy it and he wouldn’t be on PPV.
     
  12. "TKO"

    "TKO" Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All that tells us is that there are a lot of sheep out there who buy the sky marketing machine's attempts to dress up mutton as lamb. Which was precisely my point. I won't pay premium quality prices for mediocrity. Unfortunately, a large part of the market is driven by casuals who see Bellew v Cleverley 2 as a megafight.
     
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  13. Surrix

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    A.J vs Usyk most likely had generated > 2 mil if had happened in this month.
     
  14. hobby rider

    hobby rider Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No c
    No chance. A Usyk fight only appeals to a boxing audience and not a casual one.
     
  15. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    £20m is a nice haul. I hope Pulev got a good retirement check.