Lets talk Tony Baltazar Jr.

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  1. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    This guy could PUNCH!

    Lets talk resume first.

    He had a sterling amateur career with apparently hundreds of fights and very very few losses.

    He was brought up on a steady diet of low level opposition. Apparently he had been sparring the likes of Olivares, Danny Lopez, Pintor, Davila and Sandoval since he was 15yo. He reeled off 24 fights without loss before dramatically stepping up in class to fight the extremely highly regarded Howard Davis Jr. He dropped Davis hard twice and staggered him another time before losing a unanimous decision. Davis himself said the 8-2 card was ridiculous and he felt it was a 6-4 fight. Davis only remembered one knock down admitting that was due to how hard Tony hit him. It was a very close affair.

    Tony was not long after stopped (in a war) by Rockin' Robin Blake (he of the pink trunks) who had been making some nice noise of his own in the era of himself, Baltazar, Jimmy Paul, Ruben Munoz, Tyrone Crawley, the two Charlie Browns and Harry Arroyo. The group make some good music together with many an exciting bout.

    Two fights later he beat Roger Mayweather by decision who was coming back from losing his title to Rocky Lockridge in just 90 seconds. The decision was seen as a robbery i believe.

    Then the bad. Not long after Mayweather Baltazar (who was now apparently mingling with celebs and delving into booze and coke) crashed a car drunk that killed his best friend and did 3 1/2 years jail time.

    He reeled off a handful of wins around welterweight when he came back and took on Buddy McGirt at 147. Buddy was 4 fights deep in his post Taylor comeback and about 2 years short of beating Simon Brown for the title.

    Baltazar dropped McGirt hard in the 2nd stanza but Buddy weathered the storm and outboxed him.

    McGirt mentioned Tony in a Best I Faced article when talking best punchers.

    He stated -

    BM - "I went down against Tony Baltazar, and for seven rounds I didn’t know where I was or who I was fighting. When I looked up it was Round 9 and I said to my manager, ‘How did we get to round nine?’ He said, ‘Keep doing what you’re doing.’ I said, ‘What’s that?’ He said, “Keep boxing.’ I won every round after I got knocked down but I don’t remember anything from the fight to this day."

    It's safe to say by this time Baltazar was above his best weight and past his very best. He lost a decision to Hector Camacho at 140 for the WBO title about a year later. His career went all south from there.

    Footnotes -

    Frankie, his brother, was also a fair boxer finishing his career at 39-3-1. Besides being stopped by Bazooka Limon he didn't have much filler in there however.

    Baltazar lost his 6yo son aged 6 in 2001 to a rare blood disease. During this battle he had developed a foundation for kids with this disease and it might still be going i think. At one point he was also doing work for the Canadian government talking to kids on an Indian reservation about the perils of drugs and gangs.

    The big thing boxing wise for me regarding Tony is that he is one of the hardest punchers to ever fight at 135. His left hook was sheer devastation and it's power was evident on world class fighters like McGirt even above Tony's best weight.

    Tho not a great or even "very good" fighter that hook deserves mention when power and left hooks are being talked about. Like plenty of other huge punchers (Shavers, Hart etc etc etc) his overall abilities around that power were just not good enough to take true advantage of such an asset. History is littered with them but man how they could hit.

    I was originally going to talk about Tony and his hook in the hook thread recently but thought i may as well just start one for him and make a little story of it.
     
  2. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    I wish that his father still posted here. To the best of my knowledge he is still alive.

    Tony was a lot of fun to watch, except for the Mayweather fight because Roger ran like a thief. I think that there were 4 Baltazar brothers that fought professionally, though one of them only had a handful of fights.
     
  3. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    Brilliant post, John! Baltazar-Blake was already on my watchlist but it just got moved up to 'must watch' because of this thread.
     
  4. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Thanks Jel!!!! That group of guys i named had some really top fights together. Baltazar - Blake is a top fight. From memory Tony had him in a spot of bother at one point. I must re-watch it myself.
     
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  5. JohnThomas1

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    Pretty sure i remember him in here.
     
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  6. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    The Blake vs Baltazar fight is top notch.
    Blake had the ability to rip off 3 and 4 punch combinations that were just blistering. But that cost him in the long run, career-wise, because he would stand in too long, or move to his left too much to stay in punching range.
    That willingness to take a couple for your chance to land 3 is real gunslinger stuff and makes for great fights and short careers. In this fight there are two guys with that mentality.
     
  7. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    The man is a legend in southern California boxing, with eye witness, on scene stories going back to the late 1940s.
     
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    Hard to beat that!!!!
     
  9. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Watched this recently (again). This is how I saw it:

    Rockin' Robin Blake and Tony 'The Tiger' Baltazar. This is the kind of fight you want to just sit back and enjoy...but of course I ended up scoring it as well. Every punch had mayhem written all over it.

    Round 1: 10-9 Blake
    Round 2: 10-9 Blake
    Round 3: 10-9 Baltazar
    Round 4: 10-9 Blake
    Round 5: 10-9 Blake
    Round 6: 10-9 Blake
    Round 7: 10-9 Baltazar (Great round)
    Round 8: 10-8 Blake (scores a knockdown and the ref disallows a KD scored by Baltazar - great round)
    Round 9: Blake drops Tony twice and fight is stopped

    Total (through 8 completed rounds): 78-73 Blake

    Tony is constantly trying to nail Blake with his signature left hook but around the 7th I noticed him starting to use his lead right - the punch to use against a southpaw - and connecting. He should have started that earlier. The severe cut he picked up early in the fight (it was so bad he was bleeding again before leaving his corner) just drained him. And against Blake's rapid combos something had to give. Great fight. I should also mention that the KD disallowed by the ref was BS. That was as legitimate a KD as you will see.
     
  10. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tony was a very strong hitter. In the right circumstances, he would have been champ. Him and Mancini would have made a great one.
     
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    Yes, he is still alive.
     
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  12. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He has a good youtube channel too, at least i think it's his. Kikibalt, same as his screen name here.
     
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  13. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    That's good to know.
     
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  14. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Great thread. Thanks, fellas.

    Perhaps being a bit younger, I think I first saw him against Camacho and the wheels were starting come off but he was still very dangerous. Also recall the fight against Bolillo Gonzalez. Again, not one his highlights but good to read some of his backstory.
     
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  15. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    I was there that night and the whole card was disappointing. Engels Pedroza got robbed in the semi main. Robert Garcia, the trainer, fought on the under card.
     
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