Does size count even just a little bit?

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  1. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course size counts. If one can use it. One reason why Wlad dominated was because he was great at using his size advantage. Others, like Paul Williams, were not. Using ones size to an advantage is a skill. That's why I disagree that hws of today would beat hws of the past because they are bigger. Certain fighters certainly would, I'd pick Wlad comfortably over most boxer-types of the past for example. However, I wouldn't say the same about Tony Thomspon.
     
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  2. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Any idea how the undefeated pro's career panned out?
     
  3. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In my opinion it less matters at heavyweight, but matters more at other weights
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Lost to Fury.
     
  5. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    It counts a bit but it is also skill and preparation. I have seen smaller fighters chop down the taller opponents before. Having the heart sometimes makes a difference, as well as confidence.
     
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  6. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    In what way do you mean at other weights.
     
  7. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. Size is one of many factors, but I agree that skill, preparation, and a strong ambition to win are way more important than size. Often times it comes down to who wants to win more.
     
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  8. GOAT Primo Carnera

    GOAT Primo Carnera Member of the PC Fan Club Full Member

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    Absolutely.
    But can we teach & create a Rocky "Mind over Matter" Marciano again to regain the HW belt at 182??

    Like who wanted it more in Kingston, Jamaica: Joe Frazier or Gravity? :nusenuse:
     
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  9. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    It matters very much between fighters of comparable levels of talent.
     
  10. manilavanilla

    manilavanilla New Member Full Member

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    Of course it counts, especially if you're a big man with a wonderful trainer who can teach you how to use it. It just isn't everything.
     
  11. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Not a damn clue
     
  12. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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  13. GOAT Primo Carnera

    GOAT Primo Carnera Member of the PC Fan Club Full Member

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    . If things didn´t happen (aka. Rockys resume > 210 = 3), fantasy matches become a double guess.
    Its that simple.
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  14. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It only counts if they master how to properly use their advantages. Like few do. Lennox and Wlad were different fighters but they both could fight tall when they wished. But there are many factors in the sport that don’t involve height or weight that can determine the winner. Chin, defense, speed, technique, power, etc. Tyson and Holyfield were a lot smaller then most HWs today and when they fought but they managed to make it to the top. Gaining weight is not a skill nor do I contend it’s difficult to do. Shorter fights and steroids have allowed fighters to balloon with actual functional weight.
     
  15. The Slaps

    The Slaps Win or lose, as long as you get the decision Full Member

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    Height, weight and reach are factors, just like speed, footwork, agility etc you learn to use what ever tools you have to your advantage. 1 advantage You have of been bigger is you can win with less skill especially if you know how to use your height, weight and reach. It's always up to the smaller boxer to over come this and history has shown this to happen again and again, speed and a good chin are probably must haves if you're gonna give up considerable size. Just to add a 185 boxer wouldn't get sanctioned today to fight at heavy, unlike back in the day 110 lb boxer could fight 210 boxer and nobody would bat an eyelid and size disparities were common place back then.