First Marciano thread of 2021

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  1. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    His training regime was insane. Ran 20 miles a day. Swam 3 miles/day.
    Sparred with 4 other heavyweights, total of 24 rounds per day for weeks.
    2,000 situps, 2,000 pullups, 2,500 squats per day.
    Ate 10 pounds of Angus beef every day, plus 2 dozen eggs and a dozen cannoli's.

    Seamus in here in 1....2....3...
     
  2. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    More like Hershal Walker's work out
     
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  3. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Rocky Marciano has incredible stamina and power. Sounds like a solid regiment. Rocky was always in shape for his fights, he had a lot of will power. He was a great role model for the youth of America, always willing to lend a helping hand. He died doing the things that he liked to do, helping others.
     
  4. BCS8

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    His punch was equivalent to an armour piercing shell :deal:
     
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  5. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Very true, his Suzi Q punch.
     
  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Great fighter.
     
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  7. 6.5winmag

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    none better,i think he weighted around 185
     
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  8. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Boxing Addict Full Member

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    One of the strangest and funniest thing I read on this forum was a few years back when someone said that as part of his brutal training, Rocky used to run up hills ....... backwards!

    I actually tried it out myself after reading that (it was really more a steep slope than a real hill) and found it physically impossible. You would topple over forward as soon as you tried it, which I did several times. Lol. Marciano would truly be superhuman if he really could do that.
     
  9. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    But he WAS superhuman...that's the point of this thread!
     
  10. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've always agreed with Emanuel Steward that Rocky was the greatest overachiever in heavyweight history. His training regimen was what took a fighter with limited skills and physical attributes to great heights.
     
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  12. Balder

    Balder Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Even in his youth he walked uphill both ways to school. His jockstrap was made of heavy durasteel. It is said his arm musle was so thick it could bounce small caliber rounds. Then there is a rumor that when the local butcher broke his air gun used to slaughter cattle, they brought in Marciano " for no small sum" to work for a few days , until they could get it fixed. All it took was one right hand to do the trick.

    This is what inspired the meat locker scene with Rocky Balboa. All based on true events from the real Rocky.
     
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  13. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Greatest HW of all time.

    ( Adjusted for size :smile: )
     
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  14. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I would just like to be part of this historical thread about a great champion.

    And so would a few or our friends...

    JOE LOUIS
    "It hurt to bump into him....He hits harder than Max Schmeling...this kid is tough enough to beat anyone."

    "The Rock didn't know too much about the boxing book, but it wasn't a book he hit me with. It was a whole library of bone crushers."

    "I had a bad weakness kept hid throughout my career. I didn't like to be crowded, and Marciano always crowded his opponents. That's why I say I could never beat him." (Joe Louis, May, 1990 issue of Boxing Illustrated, DISPUTED BY MCVEY).

    "He's a good fighter. Better than most people realize. He's strong and young and hard to hit."

    "Rocky was a very deceiving guy. He was not easy to hit."

    Oh, I don't know. Marciano's the type of fighter I think is good enough and strong enough and takes a good enough punch to fight anybody.
    I don't think that no one, (unclear word) either Dempsey or me, could say "I could beat Marciano".
    I think the fight could be . . . It's close, it'd have to be a close fight, because he's too strong, and he could take a good punch, and he just . . . you just can't say that I could beat him.
    I'd like to say that I'd fight him, alright, but who would win, I wouldn't know; but I'd like the pay for the fight -- i think it would draw money, though.


    MUHAMMED ALI
    “I could have beaten all of those guys, except for maybe Marciano.”

    “When I was 14 years old and listening to the radio and I heard the announcer, ‘.and still champion of the whole world, Rocky Marciano..’ I knew I wanted to be champion someday. He was a big influence in the start of my career.”

    "Ooo he hit hard. He hit you so hard it'd jar your kin folks in Africa...it'd been rough...I truly think on my best day and his best day I would have beaten him...I think he was better than Joe Frazier, I truly think he was better than Joe Frazier and you know what Joe Frazier did to me...I think it would be even, he may have won. It's just hard...In his heyday, he may have won. It's up to the imagination.

    (When asked who would have given him the most trouble)
    "Rocky Marciano...He would be the most trouble I think...Rocky Marciano."


    ACHIE MOORE
    (When asked which punch hurt him most)
    "Man they all hurt."

    "After a fight with Marciano, it felt like you had been beat all over the upper body with a black jack or hit with rocks."

    "He could hurt you sure, but it was the quantity of his punches. He just had more stamina than anyone else in those days. He was like a bull with gloves."


    JERSEY JOE WALCOTT
    "Joe could take you out with combinations...Marciano was a one-punch artist. He threw every punch like you throw a baseball, as hard as he could. I have to say, with all respect to Joe, Marciano hit harder."

    “I liked that title. I didn’t want to lose it to anybody, but if I had to lose it, I’m glad I lost it to you. You’re a good fighter and gonna be a great champ.”


    EZZARD CHARLES:
    "Rocky numbs you all over. Wherever he hits you, he hurts you; on the arms, the shoulders, the neck and the head."


    JACK DEMPSEY
    "What everyone forgets is that Marciano can punch harder with a right hand than any modern-day heavyweight. In his first fight with Walcott, Rocky needed only one blow to win the title. The power in his right scrambled Jersey Joe's brains at Chicago."

    "I've scored my share of knockouts along the way, but more often than not my opponents got up after being knocked down and had to be knocked down repeatedly. The same is true of Joe Louis. But Marciano needs only one solid smash and it's all over. That's why I say Rocky Marciano is the hardest-hitting heavyweight champion I have seen."


    GEORGE FOREMAN
    I rank “Joe Louis 1, Marciano 2” Marciano retired undefeated. No other heavies has ever done it;


    JOE FRAZIER
    Joe Louis is the greatest heavyweight champion of all time. Rocky Marciano is second only to Louis. Where do I rate Ali? Somewhere below me. I beat him, and if I could beat him, no doubt Joe Louis and Rocky Marciano could have beaten him.”



    FLOYD PATTERSON
    "He was the most determined heavyweight I have ever seen in my life. That man got in the ring and there was no way he was going to lose... Determination is based in the mind. How far can you go? What is your limit? With Marciano there was no limit."


    ROLAND LASTARZA
    "In defense. It was harder to get at him ... Rocky fools you. He doesn't take as much punishment as it seems. He looks easy to hit inside but he isn't."

    "I would throw a hard punch, then he would throw a hard punch. The difference was that Rocky would throw 10 more. He just never stopped throwing punches."


    CHARILE GOLDMAN
    "He ain't as easy to hit as they say. Rocky rolls under punches and he weaves under punches ... He protects his belly by blocking with his elbows.


    ANEGELO DUNDEE
    "Rocky was a very deceiving guy. He was not easy to hit."

    "Well, let’s face it. He never got licked. Undefeated heavyweight champion of the world. I mean, how much better can you do than that?"

    "Marciano is the most underrated heavyweight of all time. He had so much more than they ever gave him credit for. He was capable of getting those bigger, heavier guys and destroying them."


    KNEENE SIMMONS
    "He fools you. When you look at him from outside the ring he seems easy to hit ... But if you're in the ring with him you find this isn't the case ... His head is bobbing and he's crouched low, so low in fact that you can't get a clear shot at him."


    "Marciano is a good puncher and he's hard to hit. He has a funny style."


    HARRY "KID" MATHEWS

    "He was a great puncher, one of the best of all-time. He just threw one punch after another, and all of them were hard."


    PHIL MUSCATO

    "Dan, I can still feel his punches. He kept punching me in the upper arms until I could no longer hold them up to defend or throw punches".


    BERNIE REYNOLDS

    "He had amazing strength. Any time Marciano hit you, he could hurt you. He didn't do much flicking; every punch was a knockout punch."


    DOC KEARNS
    "Marciano hits harder than Jack Dempsey did"


    FERDIE PACHECO
    "He was chastised by the press every time he fought as being a Neanderthal, no concept of boxing, who was going to get beat as soon as he got in with someone who could box, who was gonna make him look silly…It took a long time for the boxing scribes to realize they were in the presence of sheer power."


    SONNY LISTON
    "This man was one of the greatest champions ever. He refused to accept defeat. And nobody beat him."


    MARVIN HAGLER
    (When asked to name the greatest fighter of all time).
    "Naturally, the first thought that comes to mind would have to be Muhammad Ali. Ali is more my time. But before my time, it would have to be Joe Louis or Rocky Marciano."
     
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  15. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Great fighter, top 10 ATG. Probably a notch above Tyson as an ATG, and Liston
    ...though I'm not completely confident he could have beat them h2h.
     
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