Actually i do believe i did hahahahaha. I think i was more hinting at his superhuman powers of endurance. He was a unit and a half for sure. A guy like him, serious, quite knowledgeable in places but an absolute pompous ass actually made the forum all the more fun. Of course we were usually laughing at him and not with him
He was a soul uninterested in a sport his legs were trained to carry him in yet he still tried to stand on them despite anything through every beating, where do you go from there but down when you’re whole speciality, the highlight of your life the sole reason you’re name is etched into the annals of history means nothing to you at heart.
I do give credit to Tyson for going out on his shield against Douglas and Lewis. Those were horrific beatings. Your Foreman comparison is flawed however. Foreman himself clarified that his corner told him "don't looks at the ref, look at us" if he got knocked down. I guess the logic was if you were dizzy and on wobbly legs your eyes may play tricks on you as you're watching the ref count--never mind the loud noise as the crowd screams as you attempt to hear the count. Either Foreman mistimed the count or his corner did and he got up too late. Something similar happens to Quarry in his bout with Chuvalo as he mistimed the count taking a knee to recover and lost by KO. And Quarry was a seasoned veteran yet he made this mistake. Foreman being a 25 year old champion who had never lost and never hit the canvas before being told horrible advice is excusable. But as for heart, very few boxers in history showed as much determination to knock someone out as Foreman did that night. He absorbed an insane amount of punishment showing no regard for what was being thrown at him as he swung for the fences. He continued punching long after he had completely exhausted his gas tank being countered, tied up, and smothered by Ali in the hot muggy outdoor arena. I'd like to see a single boxer in any weight class prevail in those conditions. He had dug deep plenty, there just wasn't anything left. Combine that with bad corner advice from start to finish and his loss had nothing whatsoever to do with a lack of heart. The fact he had a breakdown and couldn't cope with the loss with Ali living in his head rent free is proof he really wanted to win.
Very fair comment, I only picked on Foreman in response to Perry but concede I was cherry-picking my facts to suit my point. In fact, I agree with everything you say.
We could all pretend to be in awe of his amazing boxing knowledge and expensive watch. I shudder to think of the effect that would have on him lmao No treadmill would be safe.