Canelo Alvarez or Andre Ward: Who rates higher all-time?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by SquaredCircle, Dec 19, 2020.


Who rates higher historically?

  1. Andre Ward

    43 vote(s)
    28.3%

  2. Canelo Alvarez

    109 vote(s)
    71.7%
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  1. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    Canelo has progressed tremendously since that fight. Plus, Ward ain’t Floyd. Floyd was a master in the ring. Ward is just a good fighter. Nothing wrong with that but Floyd was a relatively clean fighter. He didn’t need to use dirty tactics in every fight to win. Unless he’s weight drained, prime Canelo beats Ward and prime Floyd.
     
    Jackman65, Jan 5, 2021
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  2. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Ward--Better fighter.

    Canelo--Better resume.
     
    NoNeck, Jan 5, 2021
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  3. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Unlike other greats, with Canelo you have to go over his resume like a teacher correcting wrong answers first. Then evaluate accordingly.
    Trout /
    Lara/
    Golovkin ×2 //
    All wrong answers.
    As for Ward,
    Kovalev #1 is a incorrect answer, he was robbed.
    So taking all those fights into consideration, I would go with Ward because he won by robbery only once, while Canelo two biggest fights were heavily controversial, along with his fights with Lara and Trout , add to that Mayweather while being out weighed by 20lbs mopped the floor with him. People always remember robberies. Just like nobody will change their mind about Pac vs Bradley #1.
     
    m.s., Jan 5, 2021
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  4. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    One of the judges for Kova Ward was the infamous judge that screwed up the first round of JMM Pac 1, when it was supposed to, per the actual rules of the sport, be a 10-6, he instead scored it a 10-7. Let me guess, the world is wrong scoring it 10-6, and... hes right, scoring it 10-7, because he has a piece of paper that says hes an 'official judge' on it huh.

    :lol:

    People like you that think 'judges' in one of the most corrupt sports on the planet hold some sort of claim to validity over anyone else, crack me up.

    10-7 :lol:

    'Validity' :lol:
     
    kirk, Jan 5, 2021
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  5. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    due bringing up Pac-Marquez I to make a point is just foolishness after getting 3 knockdowns in 1 round all it takes it 4 total rounds to win the fight, that fact that people be holding on to a scoring error in one round means Manny got his ass kicked the entire rest of the fight. Losing a fight 9-3/8-4 but winning or getting a draw because of a great round 1 is really a loss and nothing to brag about
     
    acie2g, Jan 5, 2021
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  6. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Are you joking? Im confused.

    Your post has nothing to do with my point.

    Zero.
     
    kirk, Jan 5, 2021
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  7. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Irrelevant.

    That's like saying the Registry of Motor Vehicles incorrectly entered you in as a female, but it doesn't matter because you're actually a man (albeit a diminutive man).

    :lol:
     
    Pakkuman, Jan 5, 2021
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  8. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I’m just saying bringing up a fight where a guy got his ass kicked for 9/12 rounds and claiming it as some great feat is embarrassing
     
    acie2g, Jan 5, 2021
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  9. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    bringing up a fight where one guy got his ass kicked the entire fight and blaming it on the refs in round I, what did I miss
     
    acie2g, Jan 5, 2021
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  10. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Ya you missed everything. None of that has anything to do with my point. Dont feel like explaining it to you.

    No worries. Peace.
     
    kirk, Jan 6, 2021
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  11. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    All 3 guys are excellent fighters. I am a big fan of Canelo but even he and Eddie Reynoso know Ward is better than him. Game recognizes game.
     
    African Cobra, Jan 6, 2021
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  12. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Your comments here are so off and stupid I see no reason to comment.
     
    African Cobra, Jan 6, 2021
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  13. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Good to hear. Please feel free to extend that to any future interactions.
     
    kirk, Jan 6, 2021
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  14. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    Did he also fail to take a point away for the hitting a down opponent?
     
    Ph33rknot, Jan 6, 2021
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  15. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Idk. Did he.
     
    kirk, Jan 6, 2021
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