Which Current Lightweights Beat Lightweight Manny Pacquiao...???

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Margarito would be Mayweather's second best win at WW, after Mosley lmao

What constitutes 'special' to you? Bradley was ranked top ten P4P all three times Pacquiao fought him, and was top three in the second fight. The guy beat brilliant fighters in his career and is a two weight world champ in the two most stacked divisions in boxing at the time. Unless you're comparing him to a prime Pac or Floyd, he was absolutely special. If he's not, then Mayweather has no 'special' fighters on his record either.

Fixed that for you.

Don't stoop so low, not even the judges who scored it that night fought Bradly won.

Yeah, arguably Floyd's as well. And tbh, I wouldn't say Cotto was better than prime Barrera, or 130 Marquez.

I hope you're not trying to imply that you're 100% unbiased and impartial when talking about Floyd or Pacquiao. If you are then you're seriously - almost unbelievably - deluded. Almost.

I said losses don't really matter. Obviously you want to win, not lose. That said, a loss doesn't define a fighter, stop them from being great or make them ****. If losses defined a fighter, then Pacquiao would never have beaten the fighters he did after losing to Morales.

Of the generic top five P4P for boxing historians, all of them have double digit losses. They don't hinder anybody that much, if at all.

Like I said, no they don't. What they do matter, is when discussing what they can do in the ring. But they don't define them.

I have agreed with you in this thread. Once. The best fighters ever don't lose to Erik Morales. They also don't go life and death with Jose Luis Castillo.

 

PBF beat JLC 2x Pac has a loss to Bradley those are facts
Pac is an ATG I give him his due he's the second best fighter of his era. With that said due to the fact that people like him they overate him like you.
TBE is a marketing tool and it worked brilliantly just like changing his nickname from PBF to Money.
PBF beat Canelo and Pac he also has other great wins his resume is very good and deep so you can't say that about him.

 

Too bad I can find just as many who say PBF is greater even more. The historians don't agree with you neither does the ESPN nor the Ring. You probably picked Pac to beat PBF and when it didn't happen were left feeling sick.

 

What did the Ring say what about ESPN? What did RJJ say? What about Andre ward? You want to start name dropping? You will not be considered the best ever or even top 10 with the loses and struggles that Pac had period. Only a casual would say a guy whose best win is Cotto or MAB is the best ever or a top 10 ATG and it's disrespectful and embarrassing. It just shows how people like you overrate the man.

 

And as we all know, judges have never scored a fight wrong in the history of ever. Well, then I guess Pacquiao inarguably drew with and then beat Marquez at his best (unlike a certain weight-shenanigan-pulling boxer we both know).

See what I mean about that context?

So he's the second-best of his era in what many consider a GREAT era yet he's being overrated to the point where you have to actively deride his record with 'It wasn't that great'? Pull the other leg, it has a bell.

It made him a ****-ton of money, so yes it was a brilliant marketing ploy. The problem is people like you, who whole-heartedly believe it. Which I know you do (whatever claims to the contrary you make) because you have never applied the same scrutinity to Floyd's record that you have to Pacquaio's.

Pacquiao win over an injured Pac (I won't debate the IV thing because that's pointless) and Canelo was under his best weight and yet to enter his prime (that's Canelo's fault for offering to fight there, so I won't cry 'Mayweather shenanigans'). See? Context.

He also has great wins like the second Castillo fight, the Corrales fight, and the Zab Judah fight where (corner shenanigans he had nothing to do with aside) there was no 'Mayweather bull****' involved, he just beat them and displayed his brilliance. So yes, he has a deep and good resume. Pacquaio has one just as deep and good stretched over more weight divisions, hence it is considered 'better'. Please stop losing sleep over this 'fact'.

 

The historians don't agree with you either, and using ESPN or modern-day Ring Magazine for anything is the very STUFF of "lol".

I also wasn't a fan of boxing when the fight happened (I'm VERY new to the sport) so swing and a miss on that last accusation, batter-batter. C'mon, you're on strike two, the bases aren't loaded, and it's the bottom of the ninth. Hit that homer, Babe Ruth.

 

None of these guys. And that's not a knock on them. As good as these young LW's are, Manny was special on another level.

 

Just a jackass Flo mo who hasn't left yet....

 

Lance, what the **** are you doing trying to get us back on topic? Don't you know it's time for the 50 bajillionth 'Pac vs Mayweather' debate? Come back in 10 or so pages Pimp will get bored of this topic and troll the next Pacquaio thread.

 

Margo has 6 losses and is a disgraced cheat you saw how trash he was after he stopped glove loading. He wouldn't be PBF's 2nd best win at WW Pac was a bwtter win there and Maidana as well.

Bradley is a solid all around fighter but he's not great. A guy like crawford would have beat the hell outta him at 140. PBF beat Canelo shut him out he's special and will probably be the GOAT of Mexican boxing when he's done. Pac was special and PBF dominated him see a common theme here? PBF dominates special fighters so WTF does that make him?

The fact is Bradley won he wouldn't have won 2 rounds off of PBF. PBF is a stylistic nightmare for him.

I said arguably which means it's up for debate smartass. Cotto is arguably Pac's best win. Pac never beat JMM clearly in 4 fights

I give Pac his due I have said he's great and a ATG but I will always call out those who say he's the GOAT or a top 10 ATG. I have already said PBF isn't the GOAT or a top 10 atg for that matter. I tell it like it is but people like you don't like it.

Yes the top atgs they have loses but that was a different era and they all have wins over elite ATGs.

Lastly losing a fight and going life and death and still winning are totally different name me an ATG who didn't have close fights? You saying PBF went life and death but he beat JLC 2x and in the rematch he won going away, big difference there.

 

Pimp taking a beating as usual I see... I have an old come sock smarter then he is!

 

Look at your goofy cheerleading ass. still on my dick. Don't forget to check in ***** when you come back to the H. They ain;t doing **** you just agree with their points.

 

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Let me guess.... The promoter of COVID is trying to reply to me w/ something utterly stupid? Adding his ignorant "But I got three mercades" ass was a great move.

And remember, Pimp C says canelo has not improved at all since fighting Floyd. that's the type of herpes ans syphilis inflicted brain he has....

 

They do agree with me. Websites and the ring have more credibility than me you are anyone else here. Those list were made up by a panel of people they weren't just one person's opinion like here. They were fair and objective and had criteria.

 

Barrera ?? An atg too, wtf u talkin fool, MAB’s up there with the best. Talkin losses again, that’s a casual right there “ he lost he must be crap” attitude...Terrible