Tim Witherspoon (2nd Smith fight) vs Michael Moorer (Foreman fight)

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Glass City Cobra, Jan 18, 2021.


How does it go?

  1. Moore by KO

    66.7%
  2. Moorer by UD

    16.7%
  3. Moorer by SD

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Draw

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Witherspoon by KO

    11.1%
  6. Witherspoon by UD

    5.6%
  7. Wirhherspoon by SD

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree. But I don't think it was significant.
     
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  2. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nice 2 find some common ground w/ u, @NoNeck.
     
  3. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I think Witherspoon would get those right hands in. It was his bread and butter.
     
  4. Fergy

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    Heard that story a few times. Not sure just how true it is. It just seems strange that Spoon has a great chin. For him to be dropped like that, in the first round??
     
  5. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Moorer takes it by Unanimous decision. If Tim shows up just like that he loses nearly every round.
     
  6. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Old Foreman didn't go four fights, on the bounce, over almost three years , without a win. Smith did and this, immediately after his supposed magnum opus, against Witherspoon.

    There's no comparison between Smith and Comeback Foreman, even if you just look at it from the perspective of ledger. Foreman put in the better performances by far against better opposition.
     
  7. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good eye Colonel
     
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  8. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Your bias is as palpable now, as it was evident on the 'George Foreman 1990 vs Razor Ruddock 1990' thread.
     
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  9. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    You just can't handle how I've shaken up your worldview with the STR8 FAX. You had to go scrounging for Foreman fans who elevate Moorer because he lost to Foreman and disregard Witherspoon because he lost to Bonecrusher.
     
  10. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    This isn't about disregarding witherspoon. The version of witherspoon who Smith beat was disinterested and easy to beat, which is why the votes are overwhelmingly in Moorer's favor. But right on cue you decide to dig your heels in and ignore the obvious.

    Even I think prime Witherspoon has a good chance of beating Moorer. But lets just ignore what Witherspoon and Smith himself said about their 2nd fight and the obvious apathy and lack of form Spoon had.

    That's why your stance that a prime undefeated champion Moorer was "ripe for the taking" but you think the disinterested Witherspoon that Smith fought was a legitimate bona fide h2h boxer has got to be one of the greatest feats of mental gymnastics and projection.
     
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  11. Dubblechin

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    Wait. What?
     
  12. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bonecrusher was stopped by Joe Bugner, Brian Nielsen, Lionel Butler, Razor Ruddock, James Broad and Bonecrusher lost decisions to Levi Billups, Dan Dancuta, Axel Shulz, Michael Moorer, Greg Page, Adilson Rodrigues, Marvis Frazier, Tim Witherspoon and Tony Tubbs.

    Foreman lost a decision to Holyfield, a decision to Morrison and a decision to Briggs (when George was two months shy of his 49th birthday - which was investigated by the Feds).

    Slightly better?
     
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  13. William Walker

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    The only reason I hold Foreman in slightly higher regard is cuz of his performances against world class fighters (Holyfield and Moorer). I agree, fights like Schulz and Savarese are embarrassing wins on his record, but he gave Holyfield a very close fight, and he did knock out Moorer. I don't think his win over Moorer is devoid of legitimacy. The claim that Moorer was a blown-up light heavyweight is a crap theory w/ little 2 support. While he was a light heavy at one time, he had fought several good heavyweights: Stewart, Cooper, Smith, and defeated Holyfield (albeit not a peak one). Check boxrec, Moorer is 6 foot 2, and he was btwn 215 and 222 for all of these fights and the one w/ Foreman, and he was never overweight during this period. It's quite simple, really. Foreman was still a monster when it came 2 power, and Moorer had no better than a decent chin. The knockout itself is used often 2 point out that Moorer was a blown-up lhw. Ridiculous.
     
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  14. William Walker

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    I forgot about all those losses of Smith's! I've changed my mind now. I prefer 2 think of it as 90s Foreman is a B level fighter and Smith was a C level fighter 4 most of his career.
     
  15. Dubblechin

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    Embarrassing wins?

    When did George get stopped by freaking Lionel Butler or Brian Nielsen? Christ.

    Jesus, even against common opponents, George wastes Rodrigues and Moorer, Smith loses to both. Hell, Smith couldn't even beat freaking MARVIS Frazier.

    Good Lord.
     
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