Would Bowe have battered Witherspoon?

Tim was knocked out two times, Bowe was none. Besides beeing hurt, both had a good chin, the stats say Bowe is superior.

This is just not true. Bowe median opponents weight is 227lb, about the same weight as Bowe in shape without masses of fat. Its just nonsense. He did not beat small guys. His KO-ratio for guys above 200lb is 80% and around 80% in general if you exclude the DQ wins.

Bowe needed avarage 4,9 rounds for his KOs, Tyson needed 4,7!

Cut that crap! Bowes median opponents weight is 227lb!

Evander Holyfields avarage weight for the three Bowe fights was 213lb of trimmed functional muscle with alot of stamina! Stop posting untruths!

Bowe didn´t get knocked out and was clearly the superior puncher to Witherspoon. Plus he had every physical attribute in the world over Witherspoon.
Bowe for me is the better fighter H2H and should win against Witherspoon. Either by KO or UD.

 

I think Bowe would of battered 'with a fryer' not 'with a spoon'




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the KO ratio over guys above 200lb need to be put into context. Only 1% were heavier than Bowe was. The only elite guy Bowe ever beat was 30lb lighter than he was.

The resume of Mike Tyson is far deeper than Riddick Bowe.

 

There is nothing untrue about a 185 pounder developing himself into a bigger man to the extent all of his hair fell out or that he had heart problems. This is true.

 

So Bowe's not that good because he was more physically gifted than many in the unrestricted weight division? That's a rip snorter.

 

Bowe was seen as a new big heavyweight and Holyfields first major test as heavyweight champion.

quite. Holyfeild came out of the Bowe fight a brave loser. As the smaller man he proved he could hang with a bigger young man. It was a loss though.

financially these two were good for Holyfield but they hurt his credibility until after the Bowe series.

yes with Holyfield it came bit by bit. With Holmes it came bit by bit. Probably for Marciano it came bit by bit, I don’t know. All I know is when Bowe fought and beat Holyfield nobody was sold on Evander as necessarily a great champion until he could beat a young contender, because Holmes, Foreman,Dokes, Douglas and Cooper were not regarded as worthy tests compared to the current scene. The shadow of an absent Tyson still loomed. Ruddock, Lewis, Bowe, Tucker and Bruno looked like playing a major part in the future.

 

And no-one should have been. Again, it should take quite a long time to be considered a "great champion". The ones who have it bestowed on them quickly (sometimes too quickly, or if too quickly doesn't fit they can be judged too highly at an early point even tho they are great) are the ones that come on the scene and blitz people. Tyson would be a prime example. He was great but expectations and proclamations were still over the top. He's not alone of course.

 

Yes that’s a very good point. You might be on to something there. I just think if Holyfield is to be a such feather in Bowes cap it is better for Riddick to have beaten the more established version who had already beaten Tyson and reversed a loss to Moorer.

 

Over the course of his career we know exactly how great Evander was. We know he was a great fighter when he fought Bowe as we have now evaluated him over the entire course of his career. He didn't suddenly become capable after the three Bowe fights.

The bottom line is Holyfield is indeed a big feather in Bowe's cap. Holyfield's efforts vs Bowe are also noteworthy as we know Bowe could obviously fight. Eddie Futch was very clear in how good he thought Bowe could end up being but laziness and conditioning possibly prevented him reaching higher. Perhaps the Holyfield wars caught up with him somewhat later on too.

 

I would make Bowe a slight favorite but would be rooting for Spoon all the way. It would be a real good fight. Both guys had nice skill sets and both could punch.

 

Witherspoon wins close decision.

 

Witherspoon, on full-tilt, would be a value-for-money bet.

 

I’m still not sure Bowe was really above that level of fighter.

Greg Page, Witherspoon, Berbick, Thomas didn’t get to fight for an undisputed heavyweight championship. And if they did, I am sure they might have relished the opportunity of it being against an old school puffed up cruiserweight like Evander was regarded at that time.

I think it can be said Bowe and Holyfield both benefit legacy wise from each other.

 

Evander Holyfield more than proved himself to be a great fighter. For sure both benefit but for legitimate reasons. Holyfield was hardly a powderpuff.

 

Of course Evander proved himself to be a great fighter.

it is legitimate that Holyfields stock as a great heavyweight was never so high until after the series with Bowe.

And I said Evander was a “puffed up” cruiser because he was. I didn’t say he was a powderpuff puncher. That’s something different.