How Would Jerry Quarry Have Done Against Schmeling, Baer etc?

I think Jerry Quarry would have been very competitive in the 1930s. Weather or not he would have been a champion would depend greatly on timing and who he’s matched with.

 

It should be noted that outside of the champions, there were a few contenders in that era potentially capable of beating him.

He might not get past somebody like Tommy Loughran at a critical point in the cannon.

 

Bob Pastor would be tough. Buddy Baer would have significant advantages as well

 

Against Baer: Max Baer in shape would be quite dangerous for Quarry, but I favour Quarry. I think Baer is a bit too slow and open.

Against Carnera: Probably Quarry wins

Against Sharkey: Sharkey at his very best can win on points, otherwise Quarry.

Against Schmeling: Both great counterpunchers, Schmeling with an outstanding right cross and Quarry with a great left hook. I think Schmeling can handle Quarry on a good day, but it`s a difficult fight for Schmeling. Schmeling was also more a slow starter and Quarry could put pressure on him early on. Schmeling also can change his pace to be very explosive, but probably later. Quarry could furthermore frustrate Schmeling a bit with his better footwork. Though, I think Schmeling can overcome this. Schmeling had also a sharp leaned back torso, which made him harder to hit than Quarry. Out of this position, he jumped also sometimes into his opponent with crisp left hands and Quarry was more sensitive for cuts. I think Schmeling wins, probably on points or maybe by stoppage, cause of cuts, or maybe via late knockout.

 

Think Baer destroys Quarry. Jerry wouldn’t have the power to stop him nor be able to avoid trading with him. Baer stops him on cuts. As far as the others go I’d pick Jerry to win. Unless you’re talking about Walcott or Charles. Then I would go with them but Jerry would do well in that era if he avoided Baer

 

Beat them all !!!

 

Highly unlikely I think.

Even Joe Louis didn't manage that!

 

It seems that you missed the fight when Schmeling blew Louis away...

 

I don't think he'd be a champion, but with lucky timing it'd not be out of reach. I think he has the right style to beat Carnera and Baer (but Maxie would be very tough) but I don't think he'd beat Sharkey (who was too elusive for him) or Schmeling (who was simply better at his own game and more versatile).

 

How are we defining 'blew away'? Are first round one-sided knockouts being filed in the same category with 12 round beatdowns of a green, undertrained rookie?

For me, it was clear by the gulf in class in the rematch that Max had been in the right place at the right time in the first fight. It's a very good defining victory and better than anything on Jerry's ledger but, for me, it comes with a big asterisk.

But it was more the defeat I was commenting on and I stand by the point. I don't see Quarry losing in a round to Joe Louis.

 

Surprised so many picking Jerry to beat Baer. Just can’t see it. Both were similar in that they had. A lot of great wins but could drop a dubious one here and there

 

I think if Jerry had beaten an under prepared Louis in their first fight, the exact same thing would happen to Quarry in a rematch. Furthermore, even if Louis hadn't lost to Quarry, he'd have demolished him in a rematch IMO.

Actually, I can't see Quarry going more than six with prime Louis as is. If Louis comes in with his no-nonsense mindset in gear, like he was for most of his bum of the month tour, he'd take Quarry out with zero issues IMO. There's just noway I can see Jerry surviving the accuracy and devastation of Louis' combos. And he'd be there to hit, given he liked to stand and counter, and had little head-movement.

 

I agree...prime for prime Jerry doesn’t stand a chance against Joe. Not an insult to jerry it just wouldn’t happen

 

Quarry was a good fighter, and a contender in any era. That said, he seemed to hit the ceiling more often than not, he not only lost to the best of his era, but in the early stages of his career struggled with past prime fighters from the 50s like Machen and Patterson, nor never got a convincing win over Alogi in two tries. He was injury prone, a bad back perhaps costing him his fight against Ellis. Quarry was KOed by a past prime Chuvalo as well in a reckless performance, mistimed the count or not, he was rocked. Quarry's conditioning was also suspect, coming into fights with Norton, Alexander, and Middleton and turning in disappointing performances.

Quarry excelled against more limited sluggers and boxer/punchers that he had a clear hand speed advantage over.

That said, when has he outboxed a good technican? When was he consistent?