Someone explain the forced narrative of AJ having The Best HW Resume

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  1. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Joyce has a better resume for me. Wilder's resume isn't far off Whyte's to be honest.
     
  2. Showstopper97

    Showstopper97 The Icon Full Member

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    Infact, I'll say only Povetkin has a better resume, & he's 41yr old veteran. Shame most of the others can't follow lead & fight each other
     
  3. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Those are still world class wins that put him in the top 10
     
  4. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How ? His 2 good wins are Daniel Dubois and Bryant Jennings. Whytes resume is better
     
  5. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is this a joke?
     
  6. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Have i missed something in this thread?

    Why are we referencing Whyte's resume now?

    Genuinely asking and apologies if i have missed where it switched
     
  7. JDub

    JDub Active Member Full Member

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    Fury has the 2 better wins in Klit and Wilder but Joshua has more depth to his. It depends on what you value more to be honest.
     
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  8. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Sums it up perfectly
     
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  9. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nah Furys win over Wlad is better than Joshuas but the Wilder win isnt better than Joshuas Win over Wlad. Also Joshuas win over Povetkin easily Triumphs the Wilder win.
     
  10. JDub

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    Yeah I actually think you could be right, the more I think about it. Although, Wilder was pretty hyped up at the time and Fury beat him in his own back yard so a case can probably be made for both Joshua's win over Wlad and Fury's win over Wilder to be the second best win of the bunch I guess.
     
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  11. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not sure how anyone lists Wlad on both resumes as an apples to apples comparison. When you go up against a dominant champion on a historic win streak in his back yard and win in a way that no one thought possible, you've achieved something great. When that same fighter attempts to come back at 41, two years out of the ring, having utilized speed as one of his main strengths, there is SIGNIFICANTLY less on the table to be had. Wlad-Joshua was a shootout that could've gone either way. The only thing it proved is that a younger Vladdy would be a strong favorite to beat any version of Joshua. Fury befuddled the more prime version of Klitschko in a manner that left you feeling he could do it time and again.

    These wins; the best wins for both fighters, are not even close to being equal.

    Parker, Whyte, and Old Povetkin are all simply a level below. Taking Parker's 0 is a good victory, but he has since shown what his ceiling is. Dillian Whyte is awful and would probably get f****** up by Joe Joyce or a young Chisora. Povetkin is absolutely ancient and was near 40 when Joshua got to him.

    Ruiz...should we even be putting the 282lb butterbean saudia arabian version of Ruiz on anyone's resume? Let's certainly not forget the fact that he smashed Joshua and made him quit in their first encounter, which no one seems to factor in when they look at resume strength.

    As bad as Wilder is at certain things and as poor as his resume is, we cannot rewrite him being the danger man of the division. The HW division was very, very interesting a year ago because there were three fighters who all had a legitimate shot at taking over. No one gave a s*** about AJ's win over average Joe Parker and old Povetkin back then, what happened? Fury beating Wilder twice in his back yard is massive. There's no way around it. Undefeated Wilder-Joshua would've been a billion dollar mega fight and the win of the decade for whomever won.

    The bottom line is, Fury's win over a near prime Vlad in Germany is almost as good as all of AJ's resume combined. The fact that Fury beat the third face of this HW trio, twice, in his back yard, with two different styles, puts him far, far ahead of a Joshua who has been battered by Ruiz.
     
  12. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    o_O
     
  13. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    39 year old Vladdo was near his prime. I would say his peak was about 35. He was ring p4p #2 at age 38 I believe.
     
  14. Doppleganger

    Doppleganger Southside Slugger Full Member

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    Near prime is approaching your prime. Once you're past prime, you are falling off a fairly steep cliff.

    Wlad at 39 was past prime, so was he at 41.

    I give more credit to Joshua as he was clearly fighting a more motivated version of Wlad but both were past prime versions by some way.
     
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  15. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thankfully hes fighting Fury soon so we can put an end to this talk about who's better.