Oleksandr Usyk vs Joe Frazier

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Sugar 88, Sep 10, 2020.


Frazier vs Usyk - who would you take?

  1. Frazier

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    65.4%
  2. Uysk

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    34.6%
  1. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well in 60 ies he took little damage, very little in real. Almost nothing. If compare with 70 ies.
    Prime or not prime for him I think was change in agility and speed he might achieve etc. reflexes too a bit had declined.
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Tbh, i'm not even sure who you are picking.
     
  3. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I see you even did not had read my posts.
    I already had explained variants IF x or IF y and possible outcome there.
    Vs prime Usyk.
     
  4. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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    Mate you really dont have a clue
     
  5. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because I had watched Usyk and Ali from 60 ies?


    posts in english language forums about boxing: they mainly are made by biased guys never and ever punched in the face by someone knowing how to beat properly.
    Not alone to compare boxers.

    I do not claim to be boxing coach/ trainer but LOL.:D
    You know better?
    Lol, go to gym and teach boxers not sit in forums for x years. You also will get paid for your skills.
     
  6. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You, more than anyone else here, focuses on where a poster or boxer is from to make a decision. You are a troll on that basis alone.
     
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  7. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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    No its because you just dont understand the subject that is being debated
     
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  8. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Size difference between the two was minimal. Usyk had a couple of inches, maybe three, but that's it. Power and work rate favor Smokin Joe. Haven't seen a convincing argument for Usyk in this, other than he's from the US, us posters are biased in this despite everything said... :lol:
     
  9. lbarrow

    lbarrow Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm a bog usyk fan but Frazier would get to him at some point. He would have a tough night but Frazier s attacks would get to usyk by about the 8th or 9th. Cant see how usyk keeps him at bay. No doubt Frazier wins.
     
  10. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Which of Uysks thrilling wins at heavyweight makes you think he'd beat smokin Joe Frazier? He let that lumbering oaf Chisora get to him. Frazier by brutal beating , KO 8
     
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  11. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The only one of those I would inarguably give a nod for is power. I wouldn't let the 15 round era fool you into thinking Usyk has less stamina. Workrate clearly goes to Usyk as well.
     
  12. DramaShow

    DramaShow 19 banned Full Member

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    What did Chisora do? Usyk looked shaky for the first round and then schooled him, and almost stopped him in round 6 or 7.

    Feel everyone is being a bit overly critical of him.
     
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  13. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    Smokin' Joe
     
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  14. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    I don’t think there has ever been a fighter that can out point a prime joe Frazier, knock him out YES, but this is why I’ve always picked Frazier over a prime Ali and the same reason I pick him over Usyk. You can dance as much as you want, he’ll 100% catch up with you and lay it on you when you don’t want it
     
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  15. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I do understand far more than majority of posters here.
    Remember, smart persons for example had marked Foreman as 1:3 underdog vs Frazier and outocme was: Foreman after fight was Undisputed!
    I don't care about your opinions regards to my knowledge or interest level.

    There are questions.30 y.o Usyk or current Usyk's version.

    Young Usyk might had chances to KTFO Joe Frazier.

    Chisora's toughness is undervalued as hell.
    Yes, Dereck is slow and with bad gas tank but he is tough and good boxer.
    Fury didn't had stopped him in first fight and I do not see how Usyk might beat large Fury.