Prime Ray Robinson is dumped into 2021 by a time machine

This site had a nice technical breakdown of Ray

https://tss.ib.tv/boxing/featured-b...97-the-technical-breakdown-sugar-ray-robinson

 

He fought at 135 for a while in an era where there was no rehydrating. I don’t see how he goes to 147 and rehydrates to 160. It doesn’t make sense. I know it’s SRR but let’s be realistic about which divisions he would be in. Someone said he would clean out 168 and possibly LHW

 

I said aspects not skills or techniques and whilst Robinson is better technically than today’s fighters, there are plenty that are more explosive and athletic and I will not name them because I will most likely get bounty put on me

 

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Canelo, Charlo’s, Wilder, Teofimo Lopez, Gervonta Davis and when I say explosive I mean the ability to suddenly shift your body from moving around to all of a sudden delivering fast powerful punches in one motion, Robinson would usually look to set up combinations behind that loose versatile left jab, today’s fighters are much more explosive in the delivery of their punches than fighters from the 50s, in the 50s they seemed to throw everything really loose, like their arms were made of rope and their movements too, they didn’t explode into fast explosive combinations suddenly like you see people do now
In today’s boxing, everting is delivered in a blur, in 50s boxing everything was delivers in several motions at a much slower pace and intensity

 

Sounds like you just prefer fast twitch athletes to free flowing ones, dude. That’s genetic. It has nothing to do with technique or any advancements in modern day whatever the hell.

I’m much more impressed with fighters/athletes who have a natural combination of the two. Robinson, Leonard, and Jones Jr. are prime examples.

Then you have the purely fast twitch muscle types: Meldrick Taylor, Hector Camacho, Gary Russell, Shane Mosley, Oscar De La Hoya, etc. Mayweather falls into this category for me, too. Or not far outside it.

Then the smooth, flowing types: Whitaker, Zapata, Gomez, Napoles, etc.

 

Just the way you move your feet. If you recall, they had the resin boxes in the corners. That was so you could slide your feet, but wouldn't slip.
Once it went to rubber, you had to pick your feet up to move.
My personal opinion is that it messed up punching technique. It encouraged planting the feet, digging in, instead of shifting the weight constantly.

 

He would probably clean up the division without any trouble. The further back he goes the harder it gets.

 

He is one of the greatest fighters of all time. He is great at a lot of things. But he never was the greatest technician, his punches were a little wild.

 

I haven`t written, that he was the greatest technician. Of course, there were also others during the long history of boxing (Benny Leonard, Willie Pep...) But I think, he was an awesome technician. His punches were fast, accurate and versatile. He could hit great cominations, body- and headshots.
This kind of ferocity or wildness made him difficult to predict for his opponents. Though, he could also fight more calmly. He had an excellent footwork and jab.

 

That info is going in the files. Awesome. Makes immediate sense, too. The sliding vs lifting of the feet is definitely a major adjustment.

Do you know roughly when this shift took place?

 

I remember watching fights when I was a kid in the early 70s and they still had the resin boxes. Into the early 80s, I believe, fighters from Mexico still wearing leather soles and having to score the soles with a knife to get traction.
That may have been the late 70s. I'm trying to remember a fight where they talked about it.

 

In the video Griffo provided SRR is not really sliding at all. His footwork looks impeccable, incredible at times.

 

I don’t necessarily prefer them, I just think it’s more of an advantage to be fast twitch, I’m not saying it always wins, but they tend to do better, and one smooth flowing fighter that I don’t mind watching, Roman Gonzalez

 

With all due respect, you fundamentally misunderstand punching technique. You are supposed to be loose, it is what the true professional strives for.
When you punch properly, from the floor up, the arm just carries the punch and the arm must be loose. If we were in the gym, I could teach you this in about 20 minutes and you would feel the difference almost immediately.
Take a rock or a billiard ball and put it in the toe of a sock and tie a knot in the sock. Then start hitting stuff with it. You will see that the lack of tension in the sock is what makes it an effective weapon; it allows you to whip the heavy object through the target.
If you picture your fist as the rock and your arm as the sock, you will start to understand it.