Riddick Bowe — Heavyweight Monster

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  1. slash

    slash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nobody ever did anything about it. And it wasn't the only time he did that.
     
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  2. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    It was absolutely ridiculous. Not only should the KD not have counted but he should've had a point deducted as well.
     
  3. Eddie Ezzard

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    Lewis wasnt scared of Rahman. If he had been he would never have lost to him in the first place.

    He might have been scared he'd killed him in the second fight when he actually took it seriously.
     
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  4. WAR01

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    Cry me a river fanboy, he was poleaxed by two mediocre fighters in his prime. what other ATG can say that? answer me that. He beat beaten fighters and his best wins are Vitali*, Grant and Briggs the H2H GOAT!
     
  5. WAR01

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    It was a joke man.
     
  6. Eddie Ezzard

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    No worries. Sorry if I came across as terse. Not intentional.
     
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  7. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You’re going out on a slippery slope talking resumes. Minus Holyfield Bowes resume is dog faeces compared to Lewis.

    You talk about Lewis losing to two mediocre fighters but they’re two mediocre fighters that Bowe and his team didn’t even have the stones to fight.

    Lewis fought and beat McCall, Morrison, Mercer, Ruddock, Bruno, Golota, Tua, Tyson and Vitali. Bowe fought none of these big hard punching men except for Golota who punched him into retirement. Timelines might have been a bit out for some of those matches happening for Riddick but there were plenty of punchers out there for him to fight during his prime but somehow he avoided all of them whilst still having people wax lyrical about him today.
     
  8. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There is at least a kernel of truth to this.

    However, both Herbie Hide and Rodriguez can't be considered joke opponents. Hide won that title fair and square, and was a viciously accurate puncher with deceptive power. Rodriguez looked like he might be on his way to emulating his amateur record when Bowe knocked the **** out of him.

    Of course, Lewis is a big jump up from Bowe as an ATG, absolutely no argument there. Great, great fighter.
     
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  9. WAR01

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    Oh yeah Lewis beat Aids ridden near shot Morrison, the Obeast Tua, the out of shape fat Mercer who almost won and was utterly out classed by Grandpa Holmes who did ray beat leading up to Lewis in those 3 years or so?, Ruddock who was never the same after Tyson and was never anything, Coke zombie Tyson, McCall who he should have never lost to and who was dragged out of rehab for the fight and hands down ate shots to no effect, and Golota? ****ing Andy? nice resume. Bowe is Lewis's lesser in regards to resume if you remove Evander he has Herbie Hide really as his best win from memory. The Lion beat Vital* Grant and Briggs that is it. also answer my question.
     
  10. KidDynamite

    KidDynamite Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    For what it's worth, you can pick apart anyone's resume like that ... Not saying you shouldn't but it can be done with Bowe as well ... Hell you can even do it to Ali's record and Ali by usual concensus has the best heavyweight resume
     
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  11. Thread Stealer

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    Maybe, but I really think it was just business and risk/reward. Bowe got a HUGE deal with HBO/Time Warner, the biggest ever at the time. He was making a lot fighting overmatched guys like Dokes, Ferguson, and a supposedly easy rematch with Holyfield. Newman also was beefing with the WBC.

    They knew Lewis was a real risk and figured they might as well make easy money facing easy guys before taking on the tough challenge in Lennox. But it didn’t work out, Holyfield won the rematch. And then they were in discussions in 94’ for Bowe to face Lewis, but McCall beat him.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...reement/8baecd6e-582e-48af-95fb-545f566b08ac/
     
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  12. KidDynamite

    KidDynamite Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    There were talks again but Golota ruined Bowe and he retired after that ...

    The best time for Bowe to fight Lewis was around Holyfield 1 ... He had reached his short, short, short prime and Lewis hadn't teamed up with Steward yet
     
  13. Seamus

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    If Andy Golota destroys you physically and mentally, you are not a great heavyweight.
     
  14. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We only found out Ruddock wasn’t the same after Lewis destroyed him. Ruddock was considered the most dangerous heavyweight in the world at that time (considering Tyson was jailed) until Lewis smashed him. Bowe never once stepped in with someone as feared as that. Ditto a Tua or Klitschko.

    Mercer was inconsistent but was a very tough fight for anyone on his day and Lewis gutted out a good close win. Contrast that with Bowe who when the going got tough either fouled himself or fell down clutching his knackers.

    Bowe has one quality win. The only other win of note he has was the third Holyfield fight and Evander was hepatitis ridden and had about 2 rounds worth of energy and he still nearly knocked Bowe out with one punch. A fully fit Hoyfield (like the version Lewis beat twice) knocks Bowe out.

    You’re taking extreme lengths to denigrate Lewis’s resume and just being a total hater yet at the end still concede it’s better than the slop Bowe served us up. It says it all about Riddick Bowes career. I wouldn’t even call it a waste of talent, rather a carefully managed career that still saw him finish up punch drunk and retired years before Lewis finished ruling the heap. In boxing there are winners and losers. Lewis is a winner. Bowe? I’ll let you be the judge.
     
  15. KidDynamite

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    I think Bowes team realized that he wouldn't have a long career because of how much he would get hit and they realized his cognitive abilities were declining rather quickly ... Handing him over to Lewis who carried a massive power may have accelerated his deterioration and that may have been it for his career ...

    Holyfield was always the safer option ... He didn't hit as hard and always made for entertaining fights
     
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