Lomachenko or Mayweather - who's had the better COMBINED amateur and pro career OVERALL?

This board is created for pussies in cubicles like you to freely **** and ***** vs EE boxers and if someone does not agree with pussies bitching then this is trolling is safe space supposed by you?
For you boxing forum should be place where pussies like you should have right to express their opinions without problems because too much problems to live real life?
If someone does not agree with you he is a troll in forum while you can't talk so freely in gym or pub like there.

Btw I had attempted to discuss friendly and this did not had helped.

You, piece of s**************** will not teach me.

 

Yeah, ammy boxing too had xxx scandals, I do agree with this fact.

 

I have no issues w/ EE boxers. I like quote a few. Why you mad son? Why so angry? Can't control it?
I haven't had any reason to disagree with you because 90% of your posts are just to denigrate western posters, all while acting like your **** don't stink. So when all you do is try to criticize Western posters, YES, you are a troll.
I've had plenty disagree with me on this forum. Many who have made me rethink my position. I don't call them all trolls because many can put up a good argument. You haven't been able to. You just talk ****. And now you are angry.
I have tried to reason with you before. But when you are pointed out as being clearly wrong, you either just stay away from, the thread, or you cry like this.

Again, if you think pro boxing is garbage, why even post here? Just to see your own posts and pat yourself on the back???

 

Now this really is proof for me how low number of my posts you had read up in reality.

You are a troll and your task is to mark others as trolls here.
I do not care because this is small forum for fun.
Mark me as you wish to mark me, I will laugh.

 

You constantly try to talk down to western posters here. That's trolling... that's KINDERGARTEN (A word you loved to use BTW).
You obviously care, as you had a cuss filled post at me just a bot ago. What are you, 16??

 

At first this forum is a troll pharm where mature trolls like you are maintaining their position by marking others as a trolls.


I'm so happy to be market by a troll in a forum = troll pharm.

 

I have no position to maintain here. I'm nothing but a fan of boxing on this board, so relax. You seem to have a very odd take on what you think this board is. What, it's a club or something? Do we have meetings and pay membership dues? It's too bad Team dElite isn't around anymore. They played make believe all the time, pretending to have an office and private jet. You might have liked them.

BTW, look at our posts. I've been here much longer, and yet you'll have more posts than I in a few months. Maybe you are trying to maintain some position. Hmm...

 

Mayweather fights were good in the lower weights. I still know he lost to Castillo clearly. Draw at best vs Oscar and Maidana.

 

You and anyone else spouting this eastern superiority garbage are absolute trash. Your part of the world is the fat kid who took his ball home when he got picked last in schoolyard ball. Nothing but tearful delusion

 

What's actually happening here?

 

Broner got 3 titles in 3 divisions by 23. He also is better than Mayweather. There is an Asian fighter that got a title in his 2nd pro fight, put him ahead of Mayweather as well. Even FM's cherry picks are better than everyone on Loma's resume. Bu but Rigo! Little old man. Please! Loma's best win is Corley level, maybe a touch better. Guys need to be realistic. Loma is an awesome talent, but come on here and discredit a fighters wins to prop up your hero.

 

Depends on what you prefer, I suppose. The amateur system at the national level is far superior, no doubt. No cherry picking, no stalling, no unfair stipulations, no underhanded politicking in general (outside of a crooked decision here and there). No time wasted. The best stay active year round and they match up with the best possible opposition in unbiased tournament format. There is no truer system for consistently proving who the best are. Certainly not the modern pro scene, which is becoming more and more of a “safe space” by comparison.

With all that said, at the end of the day the head gear, scoring system, and the 3 round match length will always place it below pro boxing as a means of competition. There is no real disparity in skills between elite amateurs and pros, regardless of what some may think. The major difference is in the stakes.

A pro belt is decided in a 12 round fight where the aim is to punish and ultimately break the other man physically and mentally by any legal tactic. An amateur medal is decided in a 3 round fight with head gear where the aim is to outpoint the opponent only with specifically scored blows.

The difference in the intensity level of the actual contests outweighs any outside variables by a clear margin.

 

Oh god not again

 

Yeah, tournament formats might be usable in pro boxing too.

Long negotiations, fans prefer to see undefeated boxers.

Like this, a lot of western pro boxing champs were good amateurs: medalists, cups winners.

Older time amateur boxing had relatively high KO/TKO % if compare with time since 80 ies.

The biggest difference is tournament format.
Championship for example with 32 boxers, this means you should beat 1 boxer to get till 16 , then next boxer to get till 8 and next boxer to get till 4 boxers remain, beat next boxer to get till final.
In such way you need 5 wins to get gold medal. Be this British amateur gold, euro or world medal.
You can't prepare for one boxer with specific style to fight with.

In pro ranks if you have scheduled fight, your team will prepare you to fight exactly vs this guy.

Of course there are guys more suitable for pro boxing than amateur boxing.
Slow starters with good gas tank, not high output, good in close fight.

Campbell build for his weight class is even more suitable for ammy boxing rules than Loma's build.
Good reach, tall for his weight class.

 

Ok, some boxers did well in ammy and pro ranks, like the same Usyk, Klitschko, Loma, DLH, Ward.
Some boxers like Dorticos were not amateur superstars, in pros Dorticos was able to get title belt twice. For him looks that pro rules were more suitable than amateur rules.