The Duke Morrison

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  1. Vanderlinde

    Vanderlinde New Member Full Member

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    For who did'nt know "The Duke", i suggest watching the following, and very well done video that deserves all the credit for collecting and doing all the homework for us.

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    Morrison passed away in 2013 September. Contradary claims about his mother saying he died due to full blown aids, being on the bed on a tubing machine for a year. It was obvious and looking at the various articles and video's over the last few years from 1996 to 2013 what happend to Tommy.

    However, trish, widow, is actually still lawsuiting and continuing on to this day claiming the test happend to be a false positive, and that morrison did'nt pass away from having Aids but more like a complication of things all together.

    I'm in touch with her at the moment of writing; and i cant help it knowing all the things ive done my homework on, i'm dealing with people who are in denial. There's a claim for example, that they did analysis on the blood of tommy before or after, and it documents that there where no traces of HIV or AIDS in this case.

    I woud'nt want to believe alot really of this either knowing the past and the claims of falsifying blood tests, or avoiding states in the USA when he made a comeback to box in states that did'nt require a blood test. When nevada asks for additional tests, tommy pretty much declined doing so.

    For someone believing to his death having no HIV or Aids, why the hell would you avoid a test like that?

    https://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/sam-mellinger/article87282422.html

    There is some remaining vids on youtube, for example in one of his "comebacks" running a staged fight obviously:

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    Outside of any comission, not requiring a blood test either.

    Last interview (2012) of Tommy:

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    Now closely watch the rashes on his skin.. I'm no expert but such skin rash is usually caused by HIV or in this case a late stage of HIV. HIV on avg needs a 10 to 15 years to develop. Basicly it breaks down the body in slow stage and turns into aids once the t-cells or whatever get to a too low point. When it's aids it's pretty much done as a cold or flu could litterally kill you. There's no cells to defend the body since it's bin broken down completely by HIV.

    So; could anyone confirm or agrees with me that Tommy did had HIV? Could someone point me to the obvious in which makes it black on white that he is or that over the course of time in the last 15 years of his life, positive and died due to aids?

    It's hard to believe it was a setup, lol. Already in 89 it was confirmed in a evaluation that Tommy suspected of having HIV. The test in '96 confirmed this and they reran multiple tests as well. Later he came back claiming he had no HIV and it was one big conspiracy. His mother declared in 3 interviews that he did had HIV and appeantly boxing more then 7 years knowing he had it but hiding it from the rest.
     
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  2. piprules

    piprules Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Of course he had AIDS, To claim otherwise is crazy.
     
  3. TFP

    TFP Active Member Full Member

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    I suppose I've always thought that he did, but kind of don't want to know the [presumably unpleasant] details. He was ill for a long time, and very ill by the end, all very sad, the details of what he had etc are less important to me. If the bereaved get some comfort by [likely wrongly imo] denying that he had AIDS then I don't begrudge them that.
     
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  4. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    All fake news surely, alive and well with comeback exhibitions in pipe.
     
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  5. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Where did the "Dempsey" YouTube channel go that uploaded pretty much all of his televised appearances? It seems like it got shut down. It was established and shut down all within 2020, I think.

    I believe the guy knew Morrison.
     
  6. Turnip mk3

    Turnip mk3 Active Member Full Member

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    Tommy went from hero to zero with his mid west fans . must of been a nightmare for him having that hanging over him .
    Tommy was no Angel but what a sad end he had. RIP champ
     
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  7. Stiches Yarn

    Stiches Yarn Active Member Full Member

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    The interview was made on february 2011. The last one i think was in 2012 , i believe it was a radio broadcaster who gave a 1 hour interview with Morrison. But according the rumors and everything his wife trisha said on Facebook at that time, this was a fake Tommy.

    IMO Tommy well and truly lost his mind after he contacted HIV. He freely admitted later that after a talk with Magic Johnson, who told him the key was listen to his doctor's, that he did the opposite. "I partied away!" said Morrison.

    His family assumed he contracted HIV from a dirty steroid needle, but no one knows but sure, because Tommy declined to talk about it, ever.

    Before the turn of the new millennium, he bought a cave, (yes, a cave), convinced that the world was coming to an end at the stroke of midnight on Jan. 1, 2000. That's where he slept on Dec. 31, 1999. Morrison also claimed that HIV was a conspiracy by the government, that he can teleport ex...
    one week before his death, Morrison's mother told ESPN.com that her son had full-blown AIDS, that she was waiting for him to die ex...
    According to his death certificat, he died from cardiac arrest stemming from a blood infection known as Pseudomonas Aeruginosa Septicemia, which probably is a common cause of death in HIV-infected patients.
     
  8. Stiches Yarn

    Stiches Yarn Active Member Full Member

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    He said he recieved 2 copyright strikes and was threatened by YouTube with a disabling of his account, so he asked us to download his Morrison videos if we wish to save or repost because They will all be gone in a few hours later.
    He is still around, go check the "Community" of his channel out of you want to know more about it.
     
  9. Vanderlinde

    Vanderlinde New Member Full Member

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    Well i got a widow claiming otherwise, with obvious financial interest. Recently she won some lawsuit that would re-open the case about tommy's test, pretty much coming down to that Nevada ran tests that could hit false positive(s) and that tommy's life and carreer was shot due to the claiming of having HIV.

    If you completely rule out any of the above, you'd think that there was a solid ground. But everything was so against him, the interviews, the declaration of his own mother, the interview in 89, the declaration of his own shrink, the rumors and allegations of avoiding tests or picking doctors that where suddely good docters after a payment. There's alot to this story; she's bin pretty much avoiding key questions i ask her or answerring back with another question on top of mines.

    The frank part is that, onto his body tissues and blood was collected and it states that there was'nt a sign of HIV or Aids in this case, and the cause of death was different then it claimed to be (Aids). There's also this weird story about a clogged thing inside his chest after surgery; but what in gods name kind of docter performs such idiotic surgery in the first place. Why is'nt that party sued if that caused the death of tommy?

    I'm just trying to clear things up; it's proberly one of the most shocking secrets in boxing history where to this day there's still uncertainty of his death. If you stack up the last 10 to 15 years of his life back from 1996 to 2013, and i'm talking in video's, interviews, photo's, you can see a human being rapidly deteriorate to the point that he's completely out of stamina and not even close to the fighter he was before.

    He rapidly lost weight, his legs in the stages fight where no visual for a guy like that; the last year of his life he was bedridden to the point being on a tubing device. I have to go with what the mother of tommy repeatedly said; he died due to full blown aids. this was known in already 89, with a official result from 96. Every retest to prove he was'nt he could have done at nevada he avoided.
     
  10. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If he didn't have AIDS then what did he die of and what caused his physical deterioration?

    Everything points to him having HIV which then turned into full blown AIDS and a massive health decline.
     
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  11. Vanderlinde

    Vanderlinde New Member Full Member

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    I got a widow claiming everything BUT hiv or aids.

    She send me a 45 minute video, but it's the same repetetive and avoiding question(s) that journalists already done their homework on. If tommy was so sure not having HIV, why the hell did he avoid testing at nevada comission where it would truely matter?

    Nope. Now you get conspiracy lunatics claiming that Don King must have messed with the results because he was affraid that Tyson would stand no chance against morrison. Mind you this above bull**** started recently to appear on the internet. There's no such claim ever of this in the last 10 years or so.

    They also base their facts on if Tommy was diagnosed with HIV in 1996. There was'nt a HIV test; the only test they would run was the detection of antibodies that appear with HIV. HIV itself coud'nt be detected, no. She claims it was a false positive. So why on earth would rerunning the tests back then came to the same over and over again?

    You can see that they've done tests in various states; and some people claiming that indeed tommy did more tests then whoever. But it was dodgy, and they tampered with obvious medicine that would lower his levels to a point that it would not be detectable anymore. Yes then you woud'nt test positive on HIV anymore; but the underlying HIV is still there. It's just in a very small condition. HIV does'nt cure. HIV does'nt dissapear on it's own. It will break you immune system down to the stage of AIDS where a cold will kill you.
     
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  12. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The lady in question is coming from an emotional perspective defending a man she still clearly loves.

    When you're that blinded by love your logic and rationale desert you and even the truth seems inconvenient.
     
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  13. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/did-tommy-morrison-test-positive-for-hiv-in-1989.580490/

    Trish also had an account on here and threatened to sue me btw.
     
  14. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Morrison's left hook is in boxing history no doubt. With a more solid chin he would have become one of the best 10 HWs ever imo. Maybe it would be better talking about this than his inner demons.
     
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  15. Vanderlinde

    Vanderlinde New Member Full Member

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    That makes perfectly sense... I stopped writing with her. She barely lets room for things that are questionable and it's pretty much a one way conversation from this point. There's some lawsuit coming vs nevada but as a counter move they ask the judge to prevent her from starting new lawsuits in the future, because they are spot-on that this course is a dead-end.

    So perhaps outcome could be the end or a start; we woud'nt know still. She's obviously after $$'s for the by her claimed falsified HIV test. But when i ask her on spot like if you look at tommy's timeline, dating from 1996 to 2013, you can see a clear rapidly deteriorating human being being in full denial. Several interviews witness this with at some point claiming that HIV does'nt exist (conspiracy).

    I hope that this thing is finally be put to where it belongs.. The guy had a amazing oppertunity that would settle him the rest of his life, however his younger years (pre 90's) having unprotected sex or the sharing of needles caused him something very severe he could never recover from.