How does Canelo`s power compare to all of Hagler`s opponents power?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I read this reply on a thread about Hagler v GGG: What war?? ''Ggg couldn't even have a war with former 147 Canelo :lol:''
    I felt it was unfair to CAnelo`s power, so how does Canelo`s power compare to the power of Hagler`s opposition?
     
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  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    That reply has to be from 22JM. Nobody else is that ****in stupid.

    Obviously Hearns hit harder, so did Roldan, Parker, Sibson, Lee and Mugabi. Canelo obviously isn't on their level for power. He's probably a little above Vito, Minter, Duran and Scypion.
     
  3. Bah Lance

    Bah Lance Active Member banned Full Member

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    Well...Canelo might be 20 lbs heavier than the average Hagler opponent.
     
  4. BCS8

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    I honestly think Canelo is probably as hard a hitter as anybody Hagler faced bar maybe Hearns, Roldan and Mugabi. Let's not forget he's a 175lb fighter in there and he has a 62% KO rate.
     
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  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    What about Cyclone Hart? He's like his era's (better, IMO) version of Darnell Boone. Absolutely collosal puncher, and honestly, arguably as one of the hardest in MW history. I think I can recall Russell (?) calling him the hardest pure puncher he'd seen.
     
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  6. BCS8

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    Oh ****, you are right, I forgot about Cyclone. Yes, he hit like a thunderbolt.
     
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  7. El Gallo Negro

    El Gallo Negro Active Member banned Full Member

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    Seeing as how Hagler had damn near 70 opponents, I would find this difficult to assess.
     
  8. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Canelo does not really have one punch power to me, but for consistently landing hard/heavy/clean shots throughout a fight I think he rates higher than anyone on Hagler’s resume
     
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  9. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    You think he ranks above Duran for clean punching?
     
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    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Against poor opponents in a tragic era. He didn’t land much at all on an ancient Mayweather.
     
  11. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    at 160? Absolutely! Also we were talking in regard to power I believe? Canelo throws consistently thudding blows throughout, but I don’t consider him a power puncher in regard to one shot power etc. I find him akin to Marciano (just to derail the conversation lol) and JCC in this regard. Consistent heavy shots from start to finish.
     
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  12. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    I'd absolutely rate Canelo higher than Duran for pure power at 154+, but I was just wondering whether or not you'd rate him above Duran for the clean punching part of 'hard/heavy/clean'. For me, Duran is one of the very best ever at setting up punches and landing them exactly how he wants. The KDs of Barkley and Moore being examples.

    I certainly agree that Canelo (particularly this version who's heavier and fighting more mobile opponents, rather than the slick counter-puncher who fought GGG on the front and back foot) has a heavier dig, and more thudding power, but didn't know if you were saying that he's better than all of Hagler's opponents at all three, or a combination of them together.
     
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  13. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I meant it as a combination of consistent clean/hard/heavy rather than 3 separate areas. And I probably should have said as high or on par with rather than higher.
     
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  14. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Canelo has far more power than Minter had.
    Total fights 49
    Wins 39
    Wins by KO 23
     
  15. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Hearns hurt Hagler with a right hand at the start of 'the war' and went on to land 5 devastating straight rights flush on Marvin in Rd 1 of that bout, Hearns was landing savage shots in the bout with pin point accuracy.