Michael Nunn vs. Gennady Golovkin.

Ummmmmm ......Hey if that is what you witnessed then your scorecards are correct. We can all see what we desire when we have preconceived outcome already before the event.

I just can’t see anyone actually saying Canelo won both fights but you are not alone as others say the same.

 

Kell Brook is a highly skilled boxer as well. Granted, not as skilled as Starling, but GGG knocked him out, Nunn went to razor thin decision.

And your knowledge of that era and it's combatants has to be extremely poor to think Starling was it's best defensive fighter. You have Benitez, for a start. When Nunn vs Starling happened, Pernell Whitaker was the undisputed LW champion. In the 80s you had Duran, Lora, Davilla, Roman, Chang, Hagler, Leonard, Chavez, Qawi, Spinks and more. Starling was absolutely nowhere near the best defensive fighter.

 

I said arguably which does not mean he was the defensive fighter but certainly in the argument. He had an excellent defence with his peek a boo style.

Don’t lecture me about the fighters of the 70s and 80s I was brought up on these guys.

 

Starling was better skilled than Brook. Let’s remember he gave Simon Brown his first loss and destroyed Lloyd Honeyghan the Raggamuffin Man at the peak of his career. Special tools are required to beat the ferocious Brown and determined at the time Starling beat them.

 

Honeyghan was nothing special ,bum rushed Curry on a bad night.ie Curry had had 4 rounds in that year &Mickey Duff knew he had ring rust

....Starling was fair to middling & no more ...Still to much for Canelo though....

 

Hypocrisy off the charts.. You complain about GGGs resume yet Canelos resume is cherrypicked to the max ( don't forget the bribed judges, clen, short camps, dehydration, and fixed fights)

You're clearly a naive fanboy of some sort

 

That's an insult to 5 year olds

 

Not only are you incredibly biased but you're incredibly triggered... Try anger management therapy

 

Great post. That 350 before turning pro, the lengthy pro career, and now 40 odd years of age and still arguably undefeated(majority see him undefeated an I’m sure you do), I may come off as a fan boy but that’s a seriously seriously impressive career, that’s the best example in boxing of longevity imo, and why I have him as a h2h killer all time at 160. He looked tired compared to his usual self as far back as Brook and maintained dominance whilst not being prime since. A great fighter an if British or American he’d be rated far higher

 

It always amazes me when guys who have never stepped in the ring say fighters and in this case Honeyghan was nothing special. This man you call nothing special actually won every title available to him in his professional career from Southern Area to British, Commonwealth , European and the undisputed Welterweight Championship of the world holing the WBC, WBA and IBF belts defeated from memory at least 6 world champions and fought 9 world champions.
Starling fair to middling really? You know what I am putting you on ignore. It’s one thing to disagree but malign champions I am not having it. As Lil G I am not saying he is not a good fighter just you guys here overrate to much.

 

Shut up. Canelo has faced a stellar competition list compared to Lil G.

 

The therapist would kill him, without a doubt the straw that broke the camels back.

 

The best thing about these discussions is that it's flushed out the genuinely thick, the gullible, dreamers etc. If nothing else, it's been a brilliant indicator of who to ignore once this silliness is over. Wow. I think I've seen it all now. You are honestly judging someone by the way they write on a forum? What a ridiculous way to think, you know nothing about me...alas I & others here know all we need to know about you....

 

I hope you realise that I literally said, word for word: "Kell Brook is a highly skilled boxer as well. Granted, not as skilled as Starling". Even while admitting that Brook is inferior to Starling, a prime Brook gave GGG about five minutes of a hard time. An old Starling gave Nunn a whole half an hour of a hard time (I know, the jokes write themselves thete). GGG put his welterweight away with ease. Nunn didn't put either of his away like that. And while even though they were better, that's not an excuse for almost losing to one of them, and having issues with the other.

But regardless, I'm perfectly aware of the careers of Honeyghan, Brown and Starling. Clearly more than you, it would seem. Calling Honeyghan 'at the peak of his career' is absolutely laughable. The 'the peak of his career' was a good three years/seven fights later, after several wars and a stoppage loss. Not to mention the fact that he'd be beaten much easier by Breland in three rounds a little over a year later. Furthermore, Brown by the time of the Starling fight wasn't even close to prime. He wasn't even a top contender yet. His best win is probably Breland.

Anyway, we could keep going around in circles about Starling's career but there's no point. I'm sure you can actually just admit that you made a mistake when you criticized Golovkin for having momentary issues with Kell Brook - and so having to depend on his natural size - despite arguing for a guy who almost lost to a fighter the same size as Brook, who was bigger than Golovkin.

 

100% I honestly think he's one of best all time at middleweight. I think a lot of people vastly overrate some of the 160lbers of the past...a lot of the older 160lbers do not have that good wins! resumes when you look further into it. Let's take SRL for example. SRL "beat" Hagler, yeah but who cares because they were both out of their prime and SRL literally admitted he took the fight as Hagler looked pretty war torn and slow in a previous fight.

SRL resume (okay yeah I know these aren't at MW) highlights :
-21 y/o Benitez, young but give him credit
-Lost to Duran
-Beat a Duran who supposedly had a massive weight cut, SRL knowingly wanting to make the fight becuase of this.
- Beat Hearns 1 but was down several points on the scorecards. Gotta give him the credit for coming back
- Draw Hearns 2....come on a draw lol

In summary that is not a really impressive resume/wins at all.. But I can applaud his skill in the ring nonetheless. Immense fighter to watch when he's combo punching.

People completely and naively under rate GGG skills because they think he just comes forward and beats the **** out of you, there's a lot more to it than that.