Nikolai Valuev- What would it take for him to be an ATG?

He almost matched Rockys record that is a feat in itself i suppose.

 

His resume is actually decent/pretty good but unfortunately many believe Donald, Holyfield and Ruiz beat him so his wins are not clean wins.

Add those 3 above names along with Jameel Mccline, Sergei Liakovich, Monte Barrett and Valuev has a solid resume.

 

He was legitimately great in his own era so this thread is redundant.

Not his fault the Klitschko’s had an alpha, gargantuan, Russian, lummox phobia. Their reticence is Valuev’s legacy’s loss, curse them!

 

This

 

I think he would have had to win the Haye fight and unify with Wlad. Both tasks clearly below his capabilities as he couldn't even beat Chageav.

 

Clearly they feared Mount Suga.

 

It has been a looong while but i think i had him winning against Haye...

 

The real question is if the Demiurge could do it, or if it would require invention from The One.

Perhaps we could have an ecumenical council to decide.

 

It wasn't a wash but Haye was the clear winner. I hate Haye too but people underrate him too hard.

 

Being huge took him very far indeed. That & a granite chin-in appearance & functionality.
But excellent power? No way. Decent HW power is all.

 

He'd need to come out of retirement and beat both Fury and Joshua.

 

Bamp

 

Does anyone on this thread even understand that Vitali, the supposedly more courageous brother, ducked Valuev? The anti-Russite sentiment in this thread is unbeyewable.

There is really no other way he could walk away, Janitor.

 

Has he ever been treated for his acromegaly?

 

1. Dokes beats Holyfield in 88 and becomes mandatory.
2. Dokes gets injured last minute before fighting Douglas for the title, and Valuev fills in. Valuev wins by tko when Douglas is too winded to come out for the 9th round.
3. Dokes shows up bloated and coked out for his fight with Valuev. Valuev knocks him out.
4. Tubbs gets the nod over Bowe, earning a shot at Valuev.
5. Tubbs shows up totally out of shape for Valuev and a loses a decision.
6. Valuev gets stripped of a title and Lewis wins it.
7. Valuev beats Seldon, Jorge Luis Gonzalez, and Tucker.
8. Lewis gets knocked out by McCall. Valuev beats McCall by decision to reunify.
9. Valuev retires.
10. Moorer picks up a vacant belt by beating Holyfield. Bowe gets a belt by DQ against Golota.
11. Foreman knocks out Moorer.
12. Valuev comes out of retirement to beat post-Golota Bowe and 97 Foreman, taking his belts back.
13. Retires as the GOAT at heavyweight.