Artur Beterbiev returns this weekend - March 20th, 2021

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  1. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Here is a trailer

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    Trying to work out if Adam Dienes is a better opponent than Yildrim or not, but I just want to see a brutal KO

    The Beast is back!
     
  2. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    I don’t know anything about Dienes. He’s a southpaw but is not the opponent I’d like to see against AB. Hope his next opponent is a top LH.
     
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  3. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fi Fo fo FUM ,I smell the blood of a GINGER BUM!
    Be he hiding, ducking or cycling I want that Cleno bum taking on mE!
    Artur will feast like a beast on the cleno meatboy!

    iSAL/SHADOW your boy vill take a hell of a beating ....Oscars not there to save him lol
     
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  4. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    I am a big Beterbiev fan but every time I see his record I want to cry. What a waste of a career. All the attention and hype he is getting now that he is 36. His record should be 40-0. The ******* who mismanaged his career and kept him in court over contracts should be in prison.
     
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  5. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Deines has not been KO'd or even downed in 21 fights. He could prove to be as durable as his compatriot Koelling. If so, it will either be a late stoppage or he will be the first man to take Beterbiev the distance.
     
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  6. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Canelo won't fight Beterbiev for at least 5 years, if ever. He'd get bodied.
     
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  7. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yvon Michel promised him XYZ and 3-4 fights per year. He failed to deliver on that promise and then didn't allow Beterbiev to break the contract so it went to court and caused delays and complications to his career.

    He can short cut it now and make up for lost time but in reality he has a 2 year window to unify and then get a mega with with a big name.
     
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  8. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Prieto had never been floored in his career either until he ran into Beterbiev. He then got violently stopped in ONE round. If Beterbiev wants to smack you around, you're staying hurt.
     
  9. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Beterbiev has crazy power for his division no doubt about that but which world-class punchers had Prieto fought before Beterbiev? He also bumrushed Beterbiev, whereas Koelling was conservative. I expect Deines to be similar to Koelling in that respect and if he has a similar level of durability to Koelling, he will be difficult to stop.

    We should manage our expectations. Making out that Beterbiev is going to smoke this Euro-level fighter in 1 round will make Beterbiev look bad if it goes long. If it goes the distance people will be saying that Beterbiev is on the slide, he won't have a chance against Bivol, he should retire etc. There's a good chance that when you have a fighter who's never been hurt, knocked down or stopped, he has an iron jaw and/or excellent defensive skills and if that's the case, it doesn't mean that Beterbiev is on the slide just because it goes long or he doesn't stop him.
     
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  10. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dienes is no bum

    Koelling was not either, but Beterbiev needed rounds after shoulder surgery and a year layoff. He could have KOd Koelling at any moment in my opinion.
     
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  11. NEETzschean

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    I didn't say Deines was a bum, I said he's a Euro-level fighter. Better than Koelling overall and maybe highly durable. Was it the shoulder surgery or was it him needing rounds? If it was the shoulder surgery, that implies he found it difficult to KO Koelling because of injury. If he could have done it at any time, the surgery is irrelevant. From what I saw Beterbiev was having a lot more trouble doing damage to Koelling than his previous opponents. If he could take everyone out in a round he'd have more than just a couple of 1st round KO's.

    What will you be saying if Beterbiev doesn't manage to KO Deines?
     
  12. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It was both. I said as much.

    A year of inactivity and shoulder surgery

    If anything, he found it easy to KO Koelling. 12 rounds of setting the fight at his own pace and KOing his opponent with utter ease shows he wanted the rounds more than anything else. Knocking your opponent out with ease proves nothing anyway. Going 12 rounds after surgery and inactivity is a confidence and physical barrier overcome.

    You're reading too much into this. Go rewatch the fight, at no point did Beterbiev go for the KO until the very last round...and he found it with ease.

    Stamina overcome? Tick

    KO power intact? Tick

    Ring rust overcome? Tick

    If he doesn't KO Dienes? So what, it happens. If he struggles then I would be concerned. Otherwise I am not expecting an early round blast out. It proves nothing that we didn't already know.
     
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  13. JacK Rauber

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    I don't think this is going to be much of a fight. If you look over Deines record he lost to Meng decisively in Macao. He has had a split decision win over a 5-6 fighter. It looks like his opponents have been pretty carefully picked to give him a better record than he deserves.
     
  14. NEETzschean

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    With most opponents Beterbiev boxes at his own pace and the KO comes early-mid. Not so with Koelling. You are speculating that he wanted rounds and that's why it took so long but I doubt it was his intention to do it with less than 30 seconds remaining. If the referee hadn't stopped it at two knock downs, Koelling may well have finished the fight. Punchers struggling to get an opponent out of there tend to go all out in the later rounds but Beterbiev was landing heavy shots throughout the fight and if Koelling hadn't been highly durable (which he didn't know beforehand) he wouldn't have got close to the 12th round. Ronald Ellis against Benavidez was similar. I'm sure some Benavidez fans would say "Benavidez only turned it on in the final rounds" but the truth is that Ronald Ellis was a very tough guy.

    Unless his lungs have been wrecked by Covid, Beterbiev won't struggle with Deines. But if he doesn't KO him it won't be a black mark either imo. Some guys are just supremely durable and defensively skilled, so even the biggest punchers will struggle to get them out of there. Hopefully this fight will be a tune-up for Bivol later this year.
     
  15. JacK Rauber

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    I don't see Bivol being much of a contest. Bivol is talked about as though he is an elite fighter. He is very good, don't get me wrong but I don't think he has the durability to last against Beterbiev.
     
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