The Winner of Fury-Joshua becomes the GOAT

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The Winner of Fury-Joshua becomes the GOAT

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is a difference between being an ATG and being the GOAT. Undisputed Heavyweight Champion who cleans out the division is definitely an ATG regardless of era. GOAT is a different criteria altogether.
     
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  2. Malph

    Malph Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What is your criteria for GOAT?
     
  3. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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  4. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Which one of you ******s voted yes
     
  5. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't have a set formula for gauging the GOAT but I have one for evaluating greatness. And the fighter that excels in each of the category more than so his peers has a great claim for being considered the GOAT.

    1) Tenure as Champion: Reign as Champion, Title Defenses, Championship Record. Did the fighter clean out the division? Did the fighter have to share the claim of champion with anyone?

    2) Quality of Opposition: Overall Caliber of opponents beaten and who they were at the time of the victory; Number of Lineal Champs/Alpha Champs/Former Champs/Future Champs Beaten. Top 10 Ranked contenders beaten? Fighters who are considered greats or HOF bound fighters beaten?

    3) Notable Losses/Omissions: Nature of losses (if applicable) and where there any blatant ducks or fights that should have come off but didn't? Circumstances around it to be considered.

    4) Ability as a Fighter: The eye test, p4p rankings, Physical and Mental attributes. How well would this fighter fare in other eras?

    5) Historical Significance: Any accolades or Records held? Contribution/Impact towards the sport?

    Evaluating fighters this way gives a fair shot across the board especially when comparing different eras.
     
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  6. The Clan

    The Clan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Absolutely

    not!

    Silly notion
     
  7. Throwing Leather

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    It doesnt happen period lol nobody wanna pay 12% of their money in sanctioning fees more than once. Uysk, crawford 1 undisputed defense and by bye up north to the next weight class. Although the women all do it...hmmmm. is women boxing sanctioning fees less money? Equal rights? Aliens?
     
  8. Glassbrain

    Glassbrain Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I said they have an argument, which the winner will.
     
  9. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    They are not ATG's
     
  10. BCS8

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    Greatest of all time? :risas3:

    Greatest current heavyweight?

    Yes.
     
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  11. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    :facepalm: I already broke all this down yesterday. Fury is already the GOAT

    And another thing. Only a slick fighter can be the GOAT and it's hardly the world's best kept secret that Gypsy Slickness is the benchmark we measure all forms of Slickness by and Fury is the pinnacle of Gypsy Slickness.
     
  12. TheWorstEver(TWE)

    TheWorstEver(TWE) Active Member Full Member

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    The GOAT at what?
     
  13. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I still disagree. Let's look at their record.

    IF Fury Wins:

    Anthony Joshua
    Deontay Wilder
    Wladimir Klitshcko
    Derek Chisora
    Otto Wallin
    Steve Cunningham
    Christian Hammer
    Tom Schwartz
    Francisco Pianeta
    Kevin Johnson

    He'd be 8-0-1 In Title Fights

    If Joshua won:

    Tyson Fury
    Wladimir Klitschko
    Alexander Povetkin
    Andy Ruiz
    Dillian Whyte
    Joseph Parker
    Kubrat Pulev
    Carlos Takam
    Dominic Breazeale
    Charles Martin

    10-1 IN title Fights.

    This honestly won't be enough for either fighter. They both have the potential for entering the TOP 10 but this win (whoever gets it) isn't going to put either of them in.
     
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  14. xnico

    xnico New Member banned Full Member

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    ATG for sure
     
  15. ipitythefool

    ipitythefool Prediction ? Pain Full Member

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    Fury isn't even the Greatest of all Tysons.