Is Oleksandr Usyk ducking Joe Joyce?

93%?
If that’s true then Usyk might as well come out and say he doesn’t want The Joe Joyce smoke anywhere near him! It’s a clear duck by taking a ludicrous position over the split that no fighter would accept.

Let’s be real here, Usyk has no Heavyweight credibility yet so where does the audacity and arrogance come from?

 

Haha, that's even worse as Floyd tried to do with Pac. Eventually that came down to a 90/10 like split if Pac had been stupid enough to say yes to it.

If true, then that's a duck

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Can't wait to hear the usyk fanboys on this that rim him so badly. He's not gonna get his shot straight away and he doesn't deserve to.

If anything the governing body that granted him his mandatory straight away is to blame for bigging up his ego too much.

He did NOTHING to deserve a mandatory title shot. Doesn't matter what you did at cruiserweight, you need to at least win a ****ing title eliminator first to prove yourself worthy of a title shot.

He's done nothing impressive at heavyweight, he didn't exactly slaughter Chisora. I wasn't in the least bit impressed by his performance.

The fact that the only one standing in the way of him and a title shot is Joyce is still disgrace really. I fail to see what either of them have done to earn a shot.

Parker is by far the most proven heavyweight in those rankings.

 

Delete that last sentence and I fully agree. Parker most proven?? What has he recently done to deserve it?

 

I feel very feel! Usyk is kinda like a big lomachenko for anyone who appreciates his style its not fit for the masses but man hee talented. He didnt perform up to peoples standards against chisora but ppl hwve beaten chisora in lesser fashions and went on to title fights and he technically should have gotten WBO title shot the second he arrived at heavyweight but he beat up the witherspoon guy and then chisora. Hes gotts be the A-side against Joyce even tho hes actually pretty well tested himself hes not as big a draw as usyk.....simple. 70/30 split interim WBO belt on the line which is a rare occurrence anyways. Thats fair

 

He beat Ruiz, although whether that's recent enough for you I'm not sure. He was also close to beating Whyte, and on another night he would have done so if he was more aggressive.

I think, despite his recent blip, he's done at least something to prove himself, in comparison to Usyk who's toughest fight was Chisora, and Joyce who's toughest fight was lower than that.

Parker isn't a fantastic candidate for deserving a shot, but I still think a better shout than the other two IMO.

 

I think this might be cool lesson to eddie and co. Maybe eddie wish to get nice one sided clauses like for whyte vs povetkin?

He does not need your famous like for casual fans HW credibility and to have ANY pro boxing fight in his life to still remain credible and deserved respect.

Believe me, Pulev did " so much " to get IBF title shot vs A.J and to have A.J in the ring that I really laugh with pleasure.

He is talented, experienced but over the hill.

He wasn't quite like Loma, he loved to fight in pros and had finished boxers in row until get top5 CW opponents, these also were in their prime, not old. He fought everyone and had a lot fights aboard.

People might talk what they wish about Usyk, but he fought Glowacki in Poland and Huck in Germany, Bellew in U.K ( Bellew did not had fought his mandatory in prime Briedis) , Hunter in U.S, Gassiev in Russia.
Usyk had fought enough undefeated boxers in their prime instead of choosing to sit on one title belt and cherry pick for title defenses underdogs.

 

"The calculation is very simple. Three last declared purses of Usyk plus three last declared purses of Joyce equals the total pot. Usyk's purse divided to the total pot multiplied by 100 per cent equals his percentage."
This is from Alexander Krassyuk.
Whatever that mean.
As far as Usyk doesn`t deserve the mandatory spot, can the people that say this, explain to me, with what exactly, guys like Stiverne and Martin deserved a direct title shot ?
With what Molina deserved a title shot? With what Szpilka deserved a title shot? With what exactly Breazeale deserved his second mandatory shot ? He lost to Joshua, and beats 3 completely nobodies and get a mandatory.

As far as with what Usyk deserved a title shot, its simple, its in the rules in the WBO. He was the Unify Cruiserweight champion, actually the 3rd man in history to do it, and the only one to do it with 4 title on the line.
At the end of the day this is boxing, its not moving from Kickboxing as a champion to want a shot at the Boxing title .....

As far as Usyk ducking Joyce or fear him, really? The guy literally toyed with him in WSB at HW category.
And to be fair Joyce right now its like 10 times more slower than he was back then.

As far as Usyk being **** at WBO, it could be, but he should have done like Pulev, threaten to sue them, and they would have no choice but to either give him the shot straight away or make Joshua vacate.
And yeah we all want Joshua - Fury, but the rules should be respected. Have in mind that Joshua was given a pass exactly 2 times already.
The first time was to do the rematch with Ruiz, the second one was for Pulev, and Joshua team have stated to WBO that Usyk is next or they have to vacate. WBO gave them a pass 2 time, and a final warning before the Pulev fight, that they won`t strip Joshua, but Usyk has to be next.
And now not only he ain`t next, but he have to fight for a b.c. interim, and have to wait at least 2 more time for Fury - Joshua. And guess what could happen if Joshua win the first, and Fury the rematch, there will be at least 1 more fight ....
Usyk is 34, and i have say it, that he is already past his prime. It was quite obvious in the Chisora fight, to be fair i see sign that he start sleeping back in the Bellew fight, and that was 3 years ago.
His speed, explosiveness, footwork, reflexes are just not the same.
I have say this multiple times, not everyone could keep his prime up to 37-38 like Klitschkos.
Dos Santos for example prime ends around 30, and he was a shadow of his former self after that. Looked completely shot to s.... And in MMA age doesn`t matter that much, and you can be rock solid till your 40s.

 

Parker was A side guy in New Zealand and normally as in these cases away corner kids does loss close fights on cards.

This even more close.

Because Chisora was HW boxer?
You really think he might beat for example even current Dorticos version? I do not think so, he is too slow for this.
Usyk's toughtest fights were in WBSS.
Most worse he looked vs Whiterspoon, suspect that he is out of prime.

 

Exactly, and let me add that Usyk also fought Briedis in Riga Latvia(Briedis home) as well.

 

Usyk -

“The purse split is a matter of mathematics not of anything else,” he said.

"The calculation is very simple. Three last declared purses of Usyk plus three last declared purses of Joyce equals the total pot.

“Usyk's purse divided to the total pot multiplied by 100 per cent equals his percentage.

"Mathematics cannot be ridiculous.

This is **** logic by Usyk. My last 3 purses were bigger than your last 3 purses.

Joyce needs to earn a living at the end of the day, he deserves more than 7% if fighting in an eliminator.

75/25 seems fair.