Worst scorecards ever

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  1. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We’ve all seen the ridiculous outlier in decisions — too far one way, or simply the wrong way when a fight would seem to have an obvious winner.

    But what cards by what judges most belong in the Hall of Shame?

    I’ll go with a less-often-discussed one:

    Angelo Poletti scored Duran a 148-147 victor over Ray Leonard in Montreal (originally announced as 147 apiece but there was a calculating error at first — resulting in the fight being announced as a majority decision in the ring — that was clarified at the post-fight press conference).

    OK, he had the right guy and it was a close fight, although maybe not quite that close.

    It’s how that score was arrived at that is the problem.

    Poletti scored is 3-2-10: Three rounds for Roberto, two for Ray and TEN EVEN.

    Yes, some rounds were hotly contested. But the literal job of a judge is to discern who won each round, not to throw up his hands if it isn’t a one-side beating.

    I don’t think there’s a major fight card that compares to this level of indecision. I mean, hey, if you really can’t decide that many rounds, after you get to about five even how about just flipping a coin?

    What are yours? Make sure to mention the judge and the score and explain what’s wrong with it.
     
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  2. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Freaking hilarious, and well put too.
     
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  3. Thread Stealer

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    Zárate-Pintor

    The guy who scored it for Zárate had it 145-133.

    That’s seven different 10-8 rounds.
     
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  4. clum

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    The legendary Harry Gibbs scorecard from Shoji Oguma vs. Chan-Hee Park II, a scorecard so bad that South Korean fans from that era still complain about it. RBR:

    O - P
    9 - 10
    9 - 10
    10 - 8
    10 - 9
    10 - 10
    9 - 10
    9 - 10
    10 - 9
    9 - 10
    10 - 10
    10 - 9
    10 - 8
    10 - 10
    10 - 10
    9 - 10
    (144 - 143)

    Just looking at it, you'd never be able to guess that the fight's only knockdown came in the first round.
     
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  5. PhillyPhan69

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    not sure but the story I heard was that he scored using the 5pt system. And in correcting the scorecard doubled a 5-4 round to = 10-8
     
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    Minter Antuofermo I
    I scored this fight narrow for Minter, but Roland Dakin somehow scored 13-1-1 (149-137) in favor of Minter. Good tough fight, marred by this horrendous card.
     
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  7. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jack Dempsey as Ref also had a night where he also fell into indecisiveness. Rex Layne vs Ezzard Charles II he scored for Layne 2-1-7.
    • I called it as I saw it. Charles wasn't fighting; Layne was. It was a close fight, that's why I called seven of the rounds even." -Jack Dempsey, the referee and sole arbiter.
    • "That Dempsey was nothing but a thief." -Jake Mintz, co-manager of Charles.
    • "Dempsey is a wrestling referee; he should stick to wrestling." -Ray Arcel, Charles' trainer.
     
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  8. George Crowcroft

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    Marvin Johnson once won a ten round fight by 24 points.
     
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  9. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In the closely contested Lionel Rose v Alan Rudkin title bout there were 3 Australian officials. Referee Vic Patrick scored it 70-63 for Rose, Ron Walden scored it 70-69 for Rudkin, but Ray Mitchell somehow gave all 15 rounds to his countryman for a 75-60 score.
     
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  10. Jel

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    Yes, was going to say this. It's the only way to explain such a crazy score.
     
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  11. Jel

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    Amazing! Which one was that, George?
     
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  12. Jel

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    I think the most even rounds I've scored in a 15 round fight is 5 and one of those was due to a point deduction in a round one of the fighters was otherwise clearly winning. And I was embarrassed by that when I checked my final tally. So to score 10 rounds even in a 15 round fight is specially inept.
     
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  13. George Crowcroft

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    His fight vs Carlos Marks. One judge scored it 100-76 to Pops according to boxrec, although it could well be a typo.
     
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  14. roughdiamond

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    Willie Pep's scoring (and overall reffing) for Harada - Famechon is some of the worst on film.
     
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  15. SheenLantern

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    Eugenia Williams having Holyfield beating Lewis 115-113

    Pierluigi Poppi having Valuev beating Holyfield 116-112

    C.J. Ross calling Mayweather/Canelo a draw
     
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