Vergil "The Mustang" Ortíz Jr. - all the hype is warranted.

Question for you IB..... do you think him a better spec at this stage than Thurman? (When he was on the up as One Time, and not Run Time).

i do.

 

I'm not saying all 4 of those fighters are good (Horn sucks) but what they have over Ortiz is experiences and that alone can get you to the later rounds.

Ortiz will not be the 1st power puncher that Spence/Crawford have faced, they'll negate his power and with his lack of experiences, they'll stop him.

Please don't take that statement as a knock against Ortiz, I love him as a fighter and if he's not #2 at welterweight as far as prospects go, then he's 1B....but they're levels here.

 

Thanks...I just want to add of those 4 147 lbers you listed, i think Oritz stop Kavaliauskas, Benavídez, and Horn and is 60/40 with Porter with the favorite being Ortiz due to his power *if Porter brawls*.

If Porter boxes, i'll favor Porter but a 60/40 pick.

 

Lesser weight maintaining and after this lesser weight cut and water cut. That's it.

As Lopez told, Loma is better for 126 and 130 division and appeared he was correct.
He is smaller than Ortiz or Hooker.
Maybe Garcia might fight vs Ortiz, he looks pretty huge for 135 lbs division.

 

Indeed. I agree.

 

He's like Canelo in fast forward. . Big talent this guy.

 

I like the kid. Will definitely be rooting for him going forward.

 

Then he beats up old men. Phooey. Based on his attitude, style and what he's done thus far, Ortiz should fight Porter or Thurman or Danny Garcia next. Better would be a couple of them. If he gets by them, Spence and/or Crawford. Maybe we could have a real champion for once.

That's probably too optimistic though. I wouldn't mind Vergil fighting that Che that fought on his undercard; Marcelino Lopez. That would be a brawl and a half.

 

thats what i thought about him 2 years ago. he seems to be on track with what i see.

 

He’ll be ready in two years to absolutely destroy them. 3-4 makes it even worse for them especially Crawford as he would be 37-38. I think he beats Garcia right now. Porter would be a tough fight because of how wild he is but still beatable due to Ortiz height advantage. Spence will probably be the toughest matchup overall due to his experience against veteran fighters. But I’m not an expert so don’t take my word for it.

 

He did seem to acknowledge that he was able to handle the power and just said, “ok, I can handle this”, and that’s what allowed him to stay comfortable in the exchanges. He did get hit more than I would have liked to see though.