Boxing Myths That Need to Die ASAP

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  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes they do.

    Usyk's issues with Chisora, Briedis, Hunter and Beterbiev in the amateurs. Its actually pretty clear that Usyk's issues are with guys like this.

    Ali went life and death with Frazier twice because of it.
     
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  2. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I suspect that Usyk is over the hill after fights vs Briedis and Gassiev.
    Briedis in undervalued.
    Chisora had not prime Usyk in the ring and actually Chisora is not that bad too.

    If about clinch, yeah, Usyk is not comfortable at all. He looks is more tailored for IN- OUT game to box despite he wasn't exactly point fighter.
     
  3. FrankinDallas

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    It was Frazier. Stallone wanted him for the movie but Joe couldn't hold back in t screen test and battered Sly something really bad.
     
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  4. Entaowed

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    The fact that scoring championship fights has so often been done inappropriately does not mean, like say those who justify hazing, that the injustices should ever continue.
    If a victor per round or a fight can be discerned, no matter how close it is deemed to be, the one who earned it should get the nod.
    Might as well say if you are a champion you should be able to leave no doubt, therefor if it is close always score the round for the challenger. Equally daft idea, just without any currency.

    Banning any group from a profession is irrational & kinda evil.
    Might as well re-draw the color line.
    IF on average they are not as good, this would be due to lack of experience & opportunity.
     
  5. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    No it is widely known to be Shavers.
    Frazier was one of the "quick as cats" guys who hit Stallone, but certainly pulled his punches.
    It was Shavers who opened up, at Stallone's urging, but even then did not go Full Throttle.

    Far from it.
    Stallone also asked Dolph Lundgren, a huge Kickboxing champion, to go all out.
    One punch moved his aortic sac/heart around in his chest.
    Who knows if he would have both survived & thrived absent immediate modern medical attention, lol!

    Endless evidence of these stories: [url]https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=stallone+fights+shavers[/url]
     
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  6. FrankinDallas

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    OK but I swear I saw a youtube about Sly and Frazier.
     
  7. kirk

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    I think the term styles make fights is overused and overestimated. That phrase is entirely dependant on the quality of fighter employing the style.

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    Boxings about hitting without being hit.

    No. Boxing is about defeating your opponent to the best and most suitable to your attributes. If its outboxing them, then its outboxing. If its marauding over them and smashing their skulls in by taking two punches to land your one, then its that.
     
  8. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    partially.
    Even if we compare fights Ali vs Foreman and Frazier and Foreman vs Frazier.
    Foreman despite initially was considered as underdog, finished Frazier in distance. Frazier never had defeated Foreman.
    Frazier therefore might be considered as lesser threat than Foreman.
    Appears that for Ali in 70 ies it was not correct.
    With Foreman he dealt relatively easily if compare with total tough nightmare vs Frazier in their fights.
     
  9. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Hagler was amazingly skilled, how the hell these casuals didn`t notice his jab is beyond me, he pumped it out almost a much as Whitaker and he had a great reach too.
     
  10. ForemanJab

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    Big fights need time to marinate.
     
  11. lufcrazy

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    Garcia was lineal though tbf.
     
  12. George Crowcroft

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    Was he? How? I thought Hostak was lineal, after beating Steele.
     
  13. ertwin

    ertwin Active Member Full Member

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    no cause ali won against 20 other guys that also fought like frazier. Usyk struggled with chisora and hunter because they are both actual CW unlike glowacki and the rest that are all lhw. Briedis is pure skill and I dont care about amateur fights, porter fought usyk in the ams does that mean he could fight at super middle now of course not.
     
  14. George Crowcroft

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    Ali did not beat 20 other guys that fought like Frazier. Ali fought about three others and had issues with all of them. His first three losses were all against pressure fighters.

    When you start making sense, I'll talk to you about Usyk.
     
  15. lufcrazy

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    Steel never had the lineage mate.

    It went through Marcel Thil.