the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

When I saw all those knockdowns, I said, Ooh La La, Ha Ha, Lol.

 

The one with Drago was just plain unrealistic. Rocky went down like three times in the 1st round, yet Barry Thompkins only called one of them a KD, and the ref didn't treat any of them like a knockdown. This is definitely when the series headed downhill. Of course, I'm sure you've enjoyed seeing all those KDs.

 

I like when Drago said to Rocky, You Will Lose.

 

Why?

 

He sounded like a robot.

 

Ike Quartey vs. Jose Luis Lopez (welterweight title)


Round 1: 10-9 Ike
Round 2: 10-10 Even (there was no way I was going to give this a 10-8 to Lopez for scoring a flash knockdown. He did nothing else in the round to warrant it. Ike wins the round but Lopez gets a point for the KD.)
Round 3: 10-9 Ike
Round 4: 10-10 Even
Round 5: 10-9 Ike
Round 6: 10-9 Ike
Round 7: 10-9 Lopez
Round 8: 10-10 Even
Round 9: 10-9 Ike
Round 10: 10-9 Lopez
Round 11: 10-8 Lopez (Lopez scores a knockdown)
Round 12: 10-9 Lopez

Total: 115-115 Draw (actual scores: 116-112 for Ike and two scores of 114-114, 113-113 for a split draw)

Lopez fought like a statue earlier in the fight allowing Quartey to get that great jab of his established. Until late in the fight he was only fighting in brief flurries, which allowed Ike to run away with the early rounds. But he did enjoy a good finish. Decent fight and a draw was a good decision.

 

Jung Koo Chang - Hilario Zapata
Round 1 - 10 - 9
Round 2 - 10 - 9
Round 3 - 10 - 9
Round 4 - 10 - 9
Round 5 - 9 - 10
Round 6 - 10 - 9
Round 7 - 9 - 10
Round 8 - 10 - 9
Round 9 - 10 - 9
Round 10 - 9 - 10
Round 11 - 10 - 9
Round 12 - 10 - 9
Round 13 - 10 - 9
Round 14 - 10 - 9
Round 15 - 9 - 10

Didn't score this bout near as close as most people or the offical judging, for me Chang was the clear winner and most of the rounds were not close.

 

Ike Quartey v Verno Phillips

Continuing my affinity towards Ike Quartey fights.

Round 1: 10-9 Verno
Round 2: 10-9 Verno
Round 3: 10-10 Even
Round 4: 10-9 Ike
Round 5: 10-9 Ike
Round 6: 10-9 Ike
Round 7: 10-9 Ike
Round 8: 10-9 Ike
Round 9: 10-9 Verno (scores a knockdown)
Round 10: 10-9 Ike

Total: 97-94 Quartey (actual scores: 95-94, 95-94, 96-93 all for Quartey)

A decent fight where Phillips started fast before Ike took over with that ram-rod jab of his and really slowing Verno down with those thumps to the body. It was going all Ike until that 9th round when Verno pulled one out of his hat and dumped Ike on the seat of his pants. This is an interesting round for scorers. Ike was having a good round for the first two minutes until he was dumped. Ike held on until he cleared his head with Verno really never tagging him with much. Then around the last 10-15 seconds Ike came alive again. I hate to sit there like a Lemming and score it 10-8 for Phillips when you can exercise a bit of opinion with the 10 point must. He didn't do much of anything other than drop Ike. I wasn't going to give him an automatic 10-8. I gave him the round but just a 10-9 since Ike did some good work that round. Not a must-see fight, but a decent fight.

 

Marco Antonio Barerra v Paulie Ayala

MAB is always my go to when I want to see a good fight. I had never seen his bout with Paulie Ayala and was hoping for a good one. Well, this really wasn't it. This is more of a showcase fight for MAB when you want to put together a MAB montage. Paulie really didn't or couldn't offer anything from his prime. No blizzard of punches that we saw earlier in his career and he tapped out after this bout. No sense running a card here. I gave MAB every round, dropping Paulie twice in the 8th and once in the 10th before the Ref saved Paulie from further pain. My score was 90-79 through 9 rounds. Don't know about the official cards but I'm sure it was similar. MAB was brilliant here.

 

You've gotta feel bad for poor, Paulie. He was the likely the victim of both Barrera and Morales' best performances.

He got levered by both of them.

 

The Patterson/Johansson Trilogy

Floyd Patterson: 1.83 m, 71“, 82.6--86.2--88.3 kg, 24--25--26 yr.
Ingemar Johansson: 1.84 m, 72“, 88.9--88.3--93.7 kg, 26--27--28 yr.


Floyd Patterson vs. Ingemar Johansson I

Round 1: Johansson
Round 2: Johansson
Round 3: Johansson wins by KO. A left hook to the jaw and a right to the head and Patterson is down. All in all, Patterson has been on the canvas 7times.

I scored it: 2-0 Johansson.
Judges scores: 2-0 Johansson, 2-0 Johansson, 1-1 draw

Notes:
- Johansson was a dangerous, tricky counter puncher in lurking position.
- Johansson, famous for his right hand showed also a steady, bothering jab, which kept Patterson at long range, but without sting.
- Johansson also showed good footwork, reflexes and a hard left hook.
- Patterson sometimes attempted to go underneath the bothering left jabs of Johansson.
- Patterson had a great, leaping left hook.


Floyd Patterson vs. Ingemar Johansson II

Round 1: Patterson (10-9)
Round 2: Johansson (10-9), A good right by Johansson. Patterson was dazed, but he managed to recover.
Round 3: Patterson (10-9)
Round 4: Patterson (10-9)
Round 5: Patterson wins by KO. A short inside right shook Johansson. Then Patterson knocked Johansson down by a vicious, leaping left hook. Johansson was up at nine, but he could not survive the subsequent onslaught. The final left hook was tremendous.

I scored it: 39-37 Patterson.
Judges scores: ?

Notes:
- The Ring Magazine’s Fight of the Year 1960
- Patterson was the first heavyweight champion, to regain the championship after losing it.
- Strong performance by Patterson from round three to round five.
- Patterson was more dynamic and powerful than in the first bout. (around 3.5 kilograms heavier too)
- Johansson, on the other hand, was a bit slower and not as determined as in the first fight.


Floyd Patterson vs. Ingemar Johansson III

Round 1: Johansson (10-8), Sensational round! Thor’s hammer strikes again. Patterson on the canvas twice. Then Patterson knocked Johansson down with a left hook.
Round 2: Johansson (10-9)
Round 3: Patterson (10-9)
Round 4: Patterson (10-9)
Round 5: Patterson (10-9)
Round 6: Patterson wins by KO. A left followed by two rights knocked Johansson out.

I scored it: 47-47 Draw
Judges scores: ?

Notes:
- For me, the most exciting fight from the trilogy.

 

Manny Pacquiao v Marco Antonio Barrera II

I checked this fight out today because I don't recall if I ever saw it before. Also, I can't find any history on this fight here that anybody else saw/scored it either. Anyways, here we go.

Round 1: 10-9 MAB
Round 2: 10-10 Even
Round 3: 10-9 MAB
Round 4: 10-9 Pac
Round 5: 10-10 Even
Round 6: 10-9 Pac
Round 7: 10-9 Pac
Round 8: 10-9 MAB
Round 9: 10-9 Pac
Round 10: 10-10 Even
Round 11: 10-8 Pac (Barrera docked a point for hitting on the break)
Round 12: 10-9 Pac

Total: 117-113 Pac (actual scores: 118-109, 118-109 and 115-112 all for Manny Pacquiao)

First of all, this was not the barn-burner people may have expected after their first fight and every round was painfully close. I guarantee if I scored this again in a week I would have a completely different score. Barrera fought a subdued fight. He didn't wish to feed into Pac's hands the way he did in the first encounter. He chose his shots wisely, but he was so damn conservative with his punches that he was letting Pac take off with the fight. Manny was his usual liberally throwing punches from every awkward angle and missing half of them, but he was throwing punches. Regarding the 11th round point deduction; yes, Barrera did hit him on the break, but don't listen to the announcers talking about how hurt Pac was. That was BS! It was a lot of theatrics by Pac and it paid off with a point deduction. Look at his body language right after getting hit. He was fine. Then when he thought about it, he did that little jiggle along the ropes that was pure theatre. Watch and tell me if you disagree.

Y'know, it's funny about Pac. I had been predicting his demise for years and he keeps proving me wrong. Every time he would move up in weight I would say, 'that's it, he's done now.' Yet, he brings the punch and workrate with him. I said for years that he's always out of position, his feet are wrong, no leverage, no jab, wide open for a counter-punch. Yet, he always wins. Time to give up predicting his end.

 

Cristian Mijares v Jorge Arce (Super flyweight title)

SF champ Mijares defends against Jorge Arce. Always liked Mijares' style, and when I saw the Arce fight was available I thought it would be something.

Round 1: 10-9 Mijares
Round 2: 10-9 Mijares
Round 3: 10-10 Even
Round 4: 10-9 Arce
Round 5: 10-9 Mijares
Round 6: 10-10 Even
Round 7: 10-9 Mijares
Round 8: 10-9 Mijares
Round 9: 10-9 Mijares
Round 10: 10-9 Mijares
Round 11: 10-9 Mijares
Round 12: 10-9 Mijares

Total: 119-111 Mijares (actual scores: 119-109, 118-110 and 117-111 all for Mijares)

Despite the one-sidedness in the scores, it was still a fun, competitive fight as Arce never stopped trying. Unfortunately for him, Mijares was just too sharp and too accurate for him and, although an accidental butt caused the cut on Arce's nose, there was never a doubt this was going to end up a bloodbath in the end. Indeed, Mijares' white trunks were pink at the end from Arce's blood. Again, one-sided in scores, but each round competitive. I enjoyed the fight.

 

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Couple of young bantamweights from last night, checking out what seems to be an absolute war.

Very messy first, fun for sure. Frency is very fast and sticks a good jab, he's also not to shy of coming forward and gunning to the body. Melian was doing a lot of holding here, holding and complaining. Fortunato came out swinging, and it pays off as he scores two KDs in the second and another in the third. This Melian kid's brave, he's fighting back and refusing to give in. Frency's left hook is wicked fast, and so's his jab. I was pretty content giving the forth to Frency, who put Melian on the back-foot and mostly caught my eye more with that handspeed. Easy to score the fifth, Melian was back on the floor again.

I have a very hard time believing Melian deserve this decision if he's coming back from a nine point deficit at the mid way point... oh well, let's keep going. Incidentally, this Melian kid is really winning me over with his heart and style.

Very good sixth from Melian, amazingly. He stormed forward and worked the body, looked for the overhand and cut off the ring. Frency was forced to resort to nothing more than holding and running. Same again in the seventh and ninth, brilliant body work. He gets his own back for the early KDs, in the eighth. Scoring two of them; Melian's pressure was absolutely relentless. He's running in - with no regard for defence - and throwing some horrid overhands. He really reminds me of Jorge Paez. In fact, this whole fight reminds me of Paez-Grove I, for many reasons. Saya fought really hard to take that tenth, but two left hooks and a wide right had him holding on and he sort of slid down Melian's body. Ruled a KD, 10-8.

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9 : 10
7 : 10
8 : 10
9 : 10
8 : 10 (41/50)
10 : 9
10 : 9
10 : 7
10 : 9
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Real fun little ten rounder. Definitely should check this one out. It's quite literally a battle of two halves

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Quick rewatch for my thread; will watch Oba-Gonzalez for Philly's tomorrow.

Great action straight off the bat, with Avelar looking for his bombs as soon as he got in range. Vasquez using his left, pawing with it and then snapping lefts over Avelar's disjointed lead rights. I like how Vasquez is stepping in and rolling with Avelar's wide punches. Reminds me of Curry-Jones. Vasquez comes out pressuring in the second and landing his left hook with alarming regularity. He clearly gets the better of the incredible action for most of the round before Avelar snaps out of whatever trance he was in and decides that's he's not being bulled around by the smaller, weaker, lighter punching fighter. Oh no, he goes right back to it in the third. Vasquez really weaves his counters through Avelar's offense, beautifully. His round, again IMO. Close, though. I liked how Avelar imposed himself in the forth. Nothing much to it, he just landed better, in my eyes.

I've watched this fifth round that I can score it without watching. Vasquez's knockdown was harder and he got the better for most of the action IMO. It's truly an incredibly round, though. 10-9, Vasquez. Much more aggressive from Avelar, and I liked it; thought it won him the round. I liked his short, left uppercuts when Vasquez dipped to get at his body. I always like it when the gritty caveman-types do something right, I feel like a proud mum. Vasquez took the seventh, on mine based on his more accurate punches. Another seesaw-type round, though. Basically all of them have been. A brutal cross-counter lands on Vasquez and puts him straight out and the ref waves it of. Brutal punch, good stoppage.

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9 : 10
9 : 10
10 : 9 (37/39)
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The size difference between these two was pretty surprising. If I didn't know any better, there'd be no-way I'd have guessed Vasquez was the fighter who peak 10lbs above Avelar and would eventually win titles at featherweight, while the other was predominantly a flyweight. Avelar looked way bigger in there, I think.