How Would You Rate Mayweather, H2H, at Each Weight?

It can be argued that Hearns was as prime as Alvarez when Leonard fought him. If Alvarez wasn’t prime then neither was Hearns.

 

There is undeniable evidence Oscar and Pacquiao stalled and waited to fight Floyd.

Floyd did not force Canelo to fight him, he chose to get in there with a legend and got embarrassed.

 

A lot of Hearns best moments came after the 1st leonard fight and he moved up multiple weight classes just like Canelo after Floyd.

 

Hearns was 23 years old and fought Leonard in his 32nd fight. Alvarez was 23 years old and fought Mayweather in his 43rd fight. I don’t see how Hearns could be prime and Alvarez not. It seems rather arbitrary to me.

 

Not how boxing works. Tyson was in his prime at 21, Hopkins didn't reach his until 33. Fighters mature at different points.

 

130? Nobody i would favor over him..

135 ? I would favor both Duran and Chavez. Ike Williams (toss up.)

140? Chavez and Aaron Pryor

147lbs, Robinson, Leonard, Hearns, Duran, Kid Gavilan,
Napoles, Trinidad, DelaHoya, Cokes, Starling just off the top. Too many to name here at 47.

 

Thats true but with that said Hearns hadn't been tested enough going into that first fight. He was an incredible offensive force with that height and coordination but he didn't have the experience to go the distance. Even how to pace himself, tie up when he got tired or buzzed.
Hearns was more similar to a George Foreman going in vs Ali. His power ruled up to that point

 

lol I know how boxing works. I also know how agendas work. Whether a fighter is in his prime or not mostly depends on the point you are trying to make.

 

Point being he tried to fight the A level guys in his era and they stalled and made excuses so that can't be a point against him. You can only fault a boxer for blatantly ducking a high quality fighter who calls him out/is a mandatory/etc.

For the most part Floyd cleaned out 147 and made it look easy.

 

For example: if you hate Roy Jones, then Hopkins was not in his prime when they fought the 1st time--even though Roy was 4 years younger and had less fights than Hopkins.

 

Stop it. Pacquiao wasn't as explosive as his younger days but he was the freaking p4p #2 in the world and the #2 welterweight in the division. He would go on to do great things for years AFTER the Mayweather fight for a guy who was supposedly washed up, such as the Thurman win.

This is very annoying the way people pick and choose when a fighter was still good when it's convenient.

Freddie Roach admitted Pacquaio kept delaying the Maywewthher fight:

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Shane Mosley with his tooth excuse for not fighting Mayweather:

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When Floyd did eventually beat Mosley, Mosley he was the #1 contender and coming off the biggest KO win of his career but by all means continue about how washed up these guys were when Mayweather beat them.

I already said Mayweather doesn't have the most amazing names on his resume but he has quantity over quality by far.

 

You said the Pac and Mosley wins have an asterisk because of their age and claimed they were past their prime. That they had been slipping.

I disagreed and said they were both coming off big wins and were indeed prime fighters. Im guessing you missed the part where I said it's funny how people take issues with a fighter's age and pick and choose when their primes are when its convenient?

Here's a hint: when someone writes something they arent necessarily claiming YOU said something. I was making declarative statements. Everything you wrote is a talking point that has been brought up by dozens of other people hundreds of times. It's old.

It's evidence that his own trainer said he didn't want the fight.

So let me get this straight: Margarito was the clear cut #1 at 147, Mosley beat him then Floyd beat Mosley but Floyd's win over Mosley has an asterisk because of Mosley's age?

Mosley and Pacquiao and cotto yes. They were at their best in the weight classes Mayweather fought them at. Oscar was past it and Canelo was a little green but the win has aged like wine.