Why do these youngsters all believe Cassius Clay was some kind of elusive, defensive wizard ?

So you believe that you are a rooster, Halloween is over.

 

Well said Rich. Don't be triggered mate he's not worth it.

 

Thanks my friend, I wish that there was some sort of Antibiotic to seal his Gomer Pyle mouth for good.

 

So you agree he was racist

 

If I get banned, I will never return, goes to show that racism exist in the upper echelon. They get to post vile garbage but we cannot defend ourselves. Do as I say, not as I do went out in the early 20th century. I do not have a Boss any more, I am retired. I feel sorry for my friends that I have aquired in the years on this site. But there are rules for certain people like us, we have to put up with abuse from racist individuals.

 

I will not get triggered, you are a moron with a child like mind jarhead, the weakest branch of the service, so I will not waste my time with you, I have better things to do chavala.

 

Any time you're ready, mods.

 

Just use the ignore feature.

 

will do, I like intelligent posts.

 

I didn't put words in his mouth. Frazier did in fact say that he believed Ali should have went to war in Vietnam for the same country that enslaved their ancestors. Frazier didn't need to say it, that is a fact. Ali even famously said "why would I go shoot and bomb people over there to protect their freedoms when I lack freedoms in my own country? I don't have no quarrel with them Vietcong they never called me [n word]".

 

Re: my earlier post, stating that it was not his God given name, allow me to explain.
if your sitting comfortably El Gallo I shall begin, once upon a time there was a country called America ( founded by Christer Columbus ) and in that country lived people that were called Native Americans they are called indigenous ( or Indians for short ) there were no black Africans in this rather baron country until around 1620 when 2 English ships bought 20 or so black men from African countries ( are you still with me ) these rather unfortunate souls ( and 8.5 million others ) were then sold into slavery, to mainly white rich plantation owners, one such plantation owner was called Green Clay ( who had a son called Cassius Marcellus Clay ) now these poor slaves were not allowed to go by their birth name, but rather the name of their owner, so the name clay was that of rich white man, and not the fighters ancestors.
That concludes todays history lesson for young El Negro sitting at the back of class, not paying attention. keep well.

 

In his prime Ali was very elusive. It was post Foreman that he really slowed down and took a lot of punishment. Watch the first Liston fight. He got hit solidly very little. Supremely gifted with hand and foot speed

 

Nope. Foreman was the dope.