Wladimir Klitschko vs Ali

If this fight ever had happened it would have been incredibly boring.

Their fighting styles mesh up all wrong. Ali trying to use foot movement and the jab to hit and not be hit. Wlad using foot movement and the jab to hit and not be hit. Ali has a faster jab but Wlad has a longer and harder one.

It would probably be a godawful chessmatch where a lot of bouncing around and little of substance would occur. I doubt Wlad could close the ring off on Ali but equally, I very much doubt that Ali could move inside the range of Wlad's jab to hit and not be hit.

I'd have it a draw based on the fact that neither will be able to get significant offense going, with the caveat that the main advantage would lie with Wlad in terms of his massive size and strength. If Ali tried to make a fight of it he'd probably get mauled, and likewise if he slowed down and allowed himself to get into a trapped position. Ali's best bet is to try to lure Wlad into blowing himself out but the prime Wlad trained by Steward was so cautious that this is an improbability.

I would favour Wlad more and more the older the version of Ali we are taking to pitch him against, gets.

 

If Wlad and Ali were the same size and 215 lber's I had picked up Ali as winner.
If Wlad in actual his size, then most likely prime 215 lbs Ali will won 38 y.o and older Wlad's versions.

Size does matters, history had proven that if you are Holyfield, with this might not be enough for modern HW division.
BTW, I had scored his first fight vs Lewis for Holyfield. This doesn't change things: size matters.

 

Thats why Oleksandr Usyk was giving Klitschko the work in sparring because size is everything am i right. Its funny how Fury and Usyk are the closest things in this generation to prime Ali stylistically and Fury beat Klitschko while the latter outclassed Klitschko behind doors.

Size matters but styles also make fights. Klitschko has trouble with movers cause the man is literally a robot.

 

Why would anybody pick Wladimir to win. The man is slow and too technical at times, I call Ali winning this fight.

 

Klit brothers are friendly with Usyk and yeah, they also had used other boxers like Briedis for sparring.
This doesn't mean that Vitaly and Wlad had fought them as in a tittle fight.
You are western poster and for you hard sparring is a title fight because you a) do know english better than I b) never had sparred hard with big difference between this and title fight.

As far as I had get, you do not understand difference between hard sparring and gym war.
Had you ever in your life sparred for round robin? As one from lads who does provide work for 12-16 rounds in row?

 

https://images.app.goo.gl/T9k54fRvBmiA5kFe7 This is a picture of Ali aged 22 yrs a couple of months before the first Liston fight 1964 weighing 218lbs, the pic below is the same day without clothes without an ounce of fat on him https://images.app.goo.gl/4ZpjLnHYdFxvTWkP9 get this idea of Ali being too small for these heavies out of your heads. as people have said many times fighters were lighter in the sixties so He didn’t have to be too heavy for those guys because mostly he was heavier anyway so he trained down to what he thought his optimum weight for speed would be. personally looking at those pics I think he could have fought at 222-24 at that stage and still not have lost much speed. In 1971 aged just 29yrs against Mathis he weighed 229lbs 3 pounds heavier than what Brewster was when he knocked klitchko all over the ring. obviously after lay off so his speed was diminished from 1967 four years before.see pic below https://images.app.goo.gl/RuNBMs76EZYusczD7 not exactly fat and held his own with 260lb Mathis in clinches( si
milar stamp to let’s say a dyllian whyte) Ali’s weight that night was only 8lbs lighter than Joshua against Ruiz 2 at 236lbs how can that be small lol, Weather Ali came in at 215 or 229 Ali would have too much lateral and in and out movement for klitchko, size ain’t the problem style is.

 

How do you look at this : Haye was 217 lbs vs old and slow ( God's gift ) 7 ft 332 lbs Valuev. Now imagine if this was 30 y.o not old Valuev and what will happen.

Regards to Kitschko, he had in the ring not shot and not slow 34 y.o approx 225 lbs Povetkin.
While I do not rank them so highly as ppl think, there stuff had happened, he did nothing with not enough old and larger than he Wlad.

Regards to punch resistance if landed on chin, of course I think Lewis, Vitaly had this at better level than Wlad, this is what this is.

 

Has nothing to do with being "western"

 

Okey, explain me why round robin is used and the main goal for this one. I think you should know this.

 

Robin ?

 

You do not know this? So you do not know nor pro boxing nor server networking. Yeah, it is called round robin.

 

I know what you're talking about but what does that have to do with this conversation. What i initially said was me being western has nothing to do with this. Im not bias in favor of Ali because he's from the US. Its because styles make fights. From what i can tell you have a bias in favor of EE fighters

 

Yeah, and still you judge pro boxers, this is cool and nice for forums.
If you do not know then there no questions further.

 

Im referring to them sparring to show you that styles make fights. Klitschko has trouble with slicksters because he is very robotic. Look keep the bias aside and tell me why you think Wlad beats Ali and I'll make a counter argument

 

A bit robotic yeah. Still sparring session with 2-5 guys for 12-15-16 rounds isn't a title fight.
There also light sparring sessions are necessity, not only hard sparring.
217 lbs Usyk really might had been competitive vs 217 lbs prime Wlad if he was in his size, this yeah, I do agree.
Usyk is good.