Floyd Mayweather Jr age 20-40 v Ray at the same age who would win these match-ups

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by mark ant, Apr 1, 2021.


Page 1 of 2
  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

    36,654
    16,562
    May 4, 2017
    Floyd Joy Mayweather Jr. was born Floyd Joy Sinclair on February 24, 1977. Leonard made his professional debut on February 5, 1977, but if they were the same age from any age and stage of their respective careers who would have fared, better, i.e Floyd aged far better so probably would have beaten Ray if they were both 36 when Ray lost to Norris, but what if they were both 20, despite Floyd having not moved up in weight yet, or how about in their early 30`s at 160 when Ray beat Hagler could Floyd have been good at 160 in his early 30`s in that era etc.?
     
    mark ant, Apr 1, 2021
    mark ant, Apr 1, 2021
    #1
  2. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,421
    5,611
    Dec 31, 2018
    Mayweather is a natural lightweight and could never fight at middleweight
     
    Devon, Apr 1, 2021
    Devon, Apr 1, 2021
    #2
    robert ungurean and HolDat like this.
  3. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,329
    5,251
    Jun 23, 2018
    We never got a chance to see what Floyd could do against another master boxer ...with Leonard we have his fight against Benetiz.
     
    Bronze Tiger, Apr 1, 2021
    Bronze Tiger, Apr 1, 2021
    #3
    shza, Man_Machine and HolDat like this.
  4. HolDat

    HolDat Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,593
    2,743
    Sep 25, 2020
    Too calculated. He's a tier below.
     
    HolDat, Apr 1, 2021
    HolDat, Apr 1, 2021
    #4
    Bronze Tiger likes this.
  5. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

    36,654
    16,562
    May 4, 2017
    I think Floyd could have taken the punches that Ray hit Hagler with, despite the morre powerful shots Ray hurt Heans with at 168 or the shots that finished Lalonde being more powerful, I feel Ray would have trouble landing power shots on Floyd flush.
     
    mark ant, Apr 1, 2021
    mark ant, Apr 1, 2021
    #5
  6. Indefatigable

    Indefatigable Active Member banned Full Member

    971
    1,091
    Mar 6, 2021
    Floyd jr wouldn't last as long as his pops did. Don't even dream it. Leonard is way above Floy in every way.
     
    Indefatigable, Apr 2, 2021
    Indefatigable, Apr 2, 2021
    #6
    robert ungurean likes this.
  7. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

    36,654
    16,562
    May 4, 2017
    Jr was far better than his dad was and punched much harder too, Sr would have been destroyed by Manny.
     
    mark ant, Apr 2, 2021
    mark ant, Apr 2, 2021
    #7
    Bronze Tiger likes this.
  8. SheenLantern

    SheenLantern Active Member Full Member

    518
    900
    Jan 13, 2016
    Did Floyd ever fight anyone who did ANYTHING better than Leonard? Sounds like a dumb question but I genuinely don't think so lol. He'd be Floyd's biggest opponent, longest opponent, strongest opponent, fastest opponent, most skilled opponent, hardest punching opponent. It's just impossible to pick against Leonard here.
     
    SheenLantern, Apr 2, 2021
    SheenLantern, Apr 2, 2021
    #8
    robert ungurean likes this.
  9. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

    58,748
    21,578
    Nov 24, 2005
    The thread question really rests on these two questions :

    Can a 34 year old Floyd can beat the Leonard of the Norris fight ?
    Can a 39 year old Floyd can beat the Leonard of the Camacho fight ?

    At every other stage, SRL beats Floyd, most would agree.
     
    Unforgiven, Apr 2, 2021
    Unforgiven, Apr 2, 2021
    #9
    robert ungurean likes this.
  10. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

    36,654
    16,562
    May 4, 2017
    At what age would Floyd beat him though, Floyd aged far better.
     
    mark ant, Apr 2, 2021
    mark ant, Apr 2, 2021
    #10
  11. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

    36,654
    16,562
    May 4, 2017
    No way could Leonard from the Norris fight beat Canelo, he was awful and no way could Camacho have stopped a 39 year old Floyd.
     
    mark ant, Apr 2, 2021
    mark ant, Apr 2, 2021
    #11
  12. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,681
    9,851
    Jun 9, 2010
    ...and Hearns and Duran... ...
     
    Man_Machine, Apr 2, 2021
    Man_Machine, Apr 2, 2021
    #12
    Bronze Tiger and robert ungurean like this.
  13. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

    36,654
    16,562
    May 4, 2017
    Both of who out-boxed Ray, Hearns got caught after jabbing Ray`s head off and Duran quit in his rematch with Ray.
     
    mark ant, Apr 2, 2021
    mark ant, Apr 2, 2021
    #13
  14. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,681
    9,851
    Jun 9, 2010
    Floyd doesn't have a 78" wingspan.

    The term "out-boxed" might be somewhat of a misleading characterization of his loss to Duran. It was a closely contested battle fought at the highest of levels.

    Thoughts on the rematch vary but, collectively, Leonard's contests were of a considerably higher level of quality than anything we could find on Mayweather's record.
     
    Man_Machine, Apr 2, 2021
    Man_Machine, Apr 2, 2021
    #14
    robert ungurean likes this.
  15. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

    16,250
    15,299
    Jun 9, 2007
    Mark you seem to have a predetermined answer and are trying to convince others to buy into it. Sorry not buying it. All that matters to me is who was the better fighter at there best not when they were 50 or what not. At there best Ray kicks his ### and I dont even particularly care for Ray
     
    robert ungurean, Apr 2, 2021
    robert ungurean, Apr 2, 2021
    #15
    ETM, Indefatigable, Loudon and 1 other person like this.
Page 1 of 2