Tyson Fury says "1 day left" still no sign of Hearnz coming up with worthy venues and dates

Speak for yourself. He's a significant way down the road to vindicating everything I ever thought about him.

 

I do give Fury full credit. Fury wiped the floor with Wilder when Fury himself isn't a natural pressure fighter, something Ortiz couldn't do so it shows there are levels to this game. But still, Wilder ducked Whyte and Aj, who easily could have potentially beaten him.

 

You made it rather obvious this time, friend;

Fans and the boxing industry at large.

Wilder was 1a or 1b, Joshua's chief doubter, in Fury's absence. Tyson came back and beat one of the two top boys more or less straight off the bat.

 

Fair enough. I thought Wlad would beat him. I thought Wilder would probably beat him in 2018, so soon after that lay-off.

 

Yeah thats what Safin thought too until i literally gave him my phone number and area code and he hasn't replied on the matter since, and this was well before he got banned. You want it too ? Also i said that because looking through past threads about boxing I've noticed his analysis on fights are spot on lot of times.

Also Wilder admitted he ducked Joshua and he also avoided Whyte. Thats probably a good reason why he's unbeaten. Give me Wilders second and third best win right now and you'll realize his resume is **** poor. He's overrated. Just because he won a world title does not make him elite because he won if off a bum. Joshua won his first world title off of a bum but he successfully defended it against numerous world class fighters. Wilder not so much

 

It would help if I knew what your area code and number would prove. In any case, it's not a life and death concern. I think you're @GALVATRON. You say otherwise. You can send me numbers if it matters that much to you (be sure and add a helpful note as to how said number proves you are not @GALVATRON).

I've already provided material which thoroughly deconstructs this position. You are entitled to your opinion.

Wilder was a top boy, 1a or 1b in Fury's absence. That's not merely my opinion, but the view of most observers (fans, industry) at the time. There's no getting around that fact.

 

You think im galvatron ? Lmao the stupidity doesn't end. You have no evidence besides the fact that i mentioned him because he was spot on with his analysis of Otto Wallin. but hey if you want to be an idiot I'll let you.

And how did you deconstruct my opinion. Wilder literally has fought nobody besides Ortiz and he avoided Whyte and even admitted to ducking Aj. The delusion is real

 

he literally fought the future goat

 

That, and you act a lot like @GALVATRON. Enjoy your morning/afternoon/evening (depending on area code) and don't let my belief that you are @GALVATRON bother you too much, @GALVATRON.

 

Warren isn't really Tyson's promoter any more. He's got a co-promoter tag and UK rights, as a legacy of his early involvement and he's kept in the loop, but Fury is really a Top Rank production with MTK management.

He'd love the entanglements Eddie has with all the complications they bring, because that's how you earn money.

Hearn has the dates and broadcasting deals to make big fights. If there's money to be made his fighters will, regardless of merit and as if by magic, move into the requisite spots in the various bodies rankings. This is boxing.

I believe Whyte has the lock on the WBC mandatory via the silver title with Wilder currently at number one in rankings. That one may go to the lawyers should Wilder try for a mandatory shot at the winner of AJ vs Fury. Whyte vs Wilder however would be a big fight and a logical one.

Warren has Joyce who has a tough ask in the form of Usyk to get past if he wants the WBO. Can Warren make that fight alone given Usyk's demands? Could depend on what WBO say after the winner of AJ/Fury drops the belt.

I agree the current Matchroom roster is a mess. However, given Hearn's record with fighters he's in a strong position to refresh it.

Fury has done well in rehabilitating his image and making headlines in the US but he's yet to turn this into revenue. The figures for Tyson's 'one sided' fights with Wallin and Schwarz were utterly dreadful. So there's little to no evidence to back your point up. Whereas AJ has shown he generates revenue pretty much regardless of dance partner.

Dillian is on a fight by fight deal with Eddie who called him on his bluff to leave for pastures new. After doing the rounds of other promoters Whyte realised that Hearn could deliver more than they could.

 

Ay, damn! I do admire how early you’re up in the USA to be posting on here.

I don’t think Whyte would beat him personally. Too limited. Joshua potentially could, but I can’t see an eventuality where Joshua doesn’t get hit by Wilder. He can’t move like Fury or manage distance as well. I think Joshua is far better all round than Wilder but I think it’s a very close fight because of that equaliser Wilder has.

 

Wilder isn't a top boy IMO but you're right that Fury is the man who beat the man. And that is what counts over alphabet titles.

But really, Wilder is not a 'top boy'. I don't care how many bums he defended the WBC title against.

 

Nope, just give everyone a fair shake who isn't MR affiliated.

 

Fury wants to become the next Mayweather of America, no chance of that whilst he is under Arum.

Hopefully these AJ bouts come off because no doubt he will get squandered afterwards

 

Move on.. There's been plenty of time to negotiate this thing… If it's not happened by now it never will… although I think whyte is overrated I'd still enjoy watching fury spark him..