Fury - Joshua VS Klitschko. (Comparative Analysis)

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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  2. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This will not work.
    I even will not read. Wlad had different style and this was western training mix vs EE training mix.
    Wlad was too specific and both: Fury and A.J are hyped cos they beated old over the hill Wlad.
    While some his fans assumed that 33. y.o Pulev might beat up aging and declining Wlad. Surname does matters more than sense of reality.
    No one from all these: Fury, A.J or Vitali or Lewis had boxed or clinched like Wlad.

    Fighters are different and to use Wlad as measurement tool is just seeking and dreams to get attention.
     
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  3. James Hudson

    James Hudson Active Member Full Member

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    Wlad v Fury is by far the worst heavyweight world title fight ive ever witnessed in my lifetime. The ref should have just disqualified them both....lol
     
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  4. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Fury made a fool of an old (39) but active Klitschko, who was a 10 year reigning champion (over a bunch of puddings, granted), in Germany, after calling him out for years. He even had to deal with all of the tricks Klitschko pulled regarding the ring and there were disputes over the gloves (although the evidence for that is less conclusive). This was on top of the fact that his own country couldn't even get behind him, and he was certainly considerably more disliked than liked (ironic considering he was then more likeable than he is now - the public are sheep). He hadn't made a fortune out of boxing and he no sponsor would go near him.

    Joshua went life and death with an even older (41), inactive Klitschko, who was coming off a schooling, in front of a massive home crowd. He also knew in his mind that he had the all important luxury of the hometown judging and brown envelope operations. The entire nation was behind Joshua, as they normally are with anyone who is built up in a robotic fashion. He had already secured a world title by that point (from a pudding in a "dodgy" looking bout), made a fortune and was the face of several well-known brands.

    I much preferred the Joshua bout. It is one of my favourite bouts I've ever seen, probably. Just because of the story, the drama, it had everything that makes for a spectacle. The only downside was the stoppage, which was a true British stoppage. Klitschko had been down, yes, he was struggling, but he wasn't hit clean or very much at all by any of the punches that were thrown in what ended up in the stoppage. Considering how the fight was toing and froing, I feel like we were probably deprived of an exciting 12th round. The rest of the contest was electrifying in entertainment value and not just because of the quality (which was hardly mind blowing). I am a "sports romantic", a nostalgic, so I was taken in by the entire thing.

    However, the Fury bout is obviously far more impressive for a few different reasons.
     
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  5. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Point me where? Wrapping process check in the dress room by opponent's team member and gloves check up is casual business and there also boxing org representative and local inspector does have business.
    While Wlad is hated in the interent regards to his mauling, I did not had saw anything about his gloves.
    These " puddings " before fight with Wlad had been called as enough good and powerful boxers to expose and beat up Wlad and when this did not had happened , then " weak era ", " bad boxer ".

    BTW, how much accounts do you have there and not only in this forum. Your posts does have very specific signature marks when they are like 3+ profiles here, 2-3 profiles in another forum and 3-4 profiles in next forum.
    Do not pretend, it is damn easy to see your " signature " in your texts.
     
  6. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    1. Gloves (I know you did not follow boxing back in 2015, so I will forgive you) - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/o...title-fight-threatened-by-gloves-dispute.html

    https://www.eurosport.co.uk/boxing/...fight-will-be-resolved_sto5002983/story.shtml

    2. Brock, Leapai, Ghost of Rahman, Peter, Mormeck, Haye, Thompson, Pianeta, Ibragimov, Povetkin (who he fouled for 12 rounds and fought alongside the referee), Chambers etc. All legends of the sport. None of them were old, or short, or blown up cruiserweights.

    3. I won't give you the satisfaction you crave, but I can confirm that this is the only boxing forum I have ever been on. If you like, you can provide links to the users of the other forums who you think I am. Something tells me that you're not very confident, though. I can spot a bluffer.
     
  7. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury fought an old Wlad who looked trash and unable to pull the trigger in his fight prior with Jennings. Fury won, but it absolutely was not a schooling. I had Fury winning 7/8 rounds... But of the rounds he won, he landed what 2-3 scuffy jabs and inside glove hook more than Wlad.. Not impressive victory at all... He perfected the art of don't hit and don't get hit. He also did more feinting and showboating than actually landing clean punches. One of the most embarassing top level title fight ever

    Klitschko was 18 months out of the ring against AJ but at least it was a very exciting fight. And although the stoppage did appear early, I would have put money on Klitschko getting tagged badly shortly after .. I also don't get this idea of a "British stoppage", I see ridiculous pathetic stoppages all the time in America fights
     
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  8. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Povetkin was not CW boxer but he was TOO SMALL FOR MODERN HW era.
    He was 224-225-228 lbs boxer with smaller size than Wlad.
     
  9. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I will not accept british sources regards to non british boxers vs british boxers.
    They are biased in the same manner as U.S sources if there is boxer from U.S vs boxer not from U.S.

    All this is just noise.

    BTW, you do not know about me enough.

    I might list xxx boxers with scandals about gloves mark, tapping length etc in dressing rooms.
    What this will change?

    Normally, it is fun ho U.S and U.K boxing fans acts if opponent is not from their country.
    Also they wish to have fights in backyards and pro boxing is funny industry to statisfy these fans.

    They needs future GOATs from their countries and they are showed to have possible GOATs to milk them.

    LOL.
     
  10. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    The point I was trying to make was that Klitschko was controlling the entire enterprise in a way in which could have mentally preoccupied a less headstrong boxer than Fury. Joshua did not have any of that to deal with.
     
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  11. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, but why? German boxing had such a boring to watch boxing star like Ottke and someone needs to sell tickets.
    Of course Wlad was boring to watch but he at least was highly skilled and great.
    Then germans had saw boxers like Huck and Povetkin, these were not boring to watch. Tickets might be sold and they are not cocky, willing to fight tough fights.

    As far as I know, Wlad had been accused in mauling, holding and stuff like standup wrestling match. Not about gloves.

    There is other EE boxer: Vitali, he boxed and did not loved even to clinch.
     
  12. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The Joshua/Klitschko is 10x more enjoyable and will go down as a classic because of the action but Fury totally humiliated a (old) Klitschko who held multiple world titles wheras Joshua was pushed to his limit by an even older inactive Klitschko.

    Fury's feat was by far more impressive and it's not even close and this is coming from someone who thinks Joshua will beat Fury
     
  13. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Wlad was completely gone v AJ, no way could he have recovered in that fight v a finisher like AJ.
     
  14. Surrix

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    For rich businessman in Wlad had not to be big problems to fight with Pulev when he was over the hill and then why not to have next and next fight.
    I think he more like a businessman, vs Fury he had belts and most likely assumed that he still is not enough old and even if is, $ next paycheck is not bad.
    All these undefeated records and fans talks are for fans.
     
  15. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    I still think Wladmir promising to let his hands go meant something. I think Fury vs Wladmir 2 would have been different. Fury may have still won, but I think it would have been close.

    Wladmir was trying his normal tactics on a guy who was too good on the outside for him.
     
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