Fury - Joshua VS Klitschko. (Comparative Analysis)

Well Fury got hit much less but he also didn't hit Wlad much himelf he just barley did enough to win about 8 rounds but it was no boxing masterclass from Fury like some people like to claim it was, but it was a well planned fight from Fury and he also got into Wlad's head which helped.

He of course had much more sucess vs AJ and almost had him out at one point in a much more exciting fight (which was impressive as he was 41 and 18 months inactive) but he was eventually taken out.

Fury did better in terms of not getting hit and making Wlad look bad, whereas Joshua did better in terms of providing excitement but it was a better win for Fury in terms of legacy that's for sure.

 

Wlad-Fury was no schooling, it was two guys running and dancing around the ring throwing barley any punches for about 85% of the time, it was simlar to DeLeon-Nelson only with minimal more action.

 

Fury surprised me the night he beat Klitschko, I never expected him to do much on the world scene and if I remember correctly no one really gave him a chance against Klitschko.

Yes, he fought a very negative fight but he beat Klitschko at his own game, i suppose in the same way he beat Wilder at his own game.

Fury could only beat the man in front of him and that version of Klitschko was not Wlad at his best, he had looked poor in his previous fight with Jennings, the main problem was not being able to pull the trigger, to cap it off rumours of personal issues for Wlad throughout his camp were rife.

Wlad signed for a rematch, Wlad only ever to me, chased rematches when he thought he could rectify the loss. The fight wasn't a shutout, it was close with Fury deserving the win by about 3 rounds IMO.
Who knows what would of happened if the rematch would of happened but it was doomed with Fury's mental health and poor ticket sales.

As for the AJ fight, it was 2 years on and Klitschko already past his best was 2 years older. He looked in great shape as he always did including the Fury fight. There was talk he was revitalised and hungry and was eager to prove people wrong, he certainly showed much more of a willingness to let his hands go than he had done in previous fights.

Klitschko early in his career had a habit of being more aggressive but gassing after the middle rounds, he showed glimpses of this vs AJ and this suited AJ as he too gassed. It was a more aggressive and fan friendly fight and AJ has never truly been the same since this fight. It was by far the better fight from a fan perspective.

In terms of prestige, the win is a better win for Fury as Wlad was the man at the time, I do feel that Wlad was a better version vs AJ but that is opinion and there is no way of proving it, but I do feel Fury would have won that version too.

 

Agree with all of your points besides Wlad fighting puddings. Fighters age much better today with superior diet and training methods, his "short" opponents were 6'2, 6'3, 6'4 aka big heavies in the recent past and the blown-up cruisers weighed the same as a mature Ali in the ring. Wlad took on all comers and put together the best heavyweight run of all time, knocking 3/4+ contenders out while taking very little damage himself; a victim of his own success and the jingoistic U.S. boxing media. Wlad 2.0 was just too big, athletic, powerful and skillful for anyone who wasn't at least his size or bigger and still gave 27 year old AJ hell with every disadvantage you mentioned. Top 5 ATG no question.

 

Size is subjective. Theres height then theres also weight. Ike Ibeabuchi was a lot shorter than Wlad but weighed just as much as prime Wlad in the Byrd fight. Wlad himself has also been blasted out by smaller fighters

 

"Size is subjective" is like saying d*ck size is subjective lmao. Size is totally objective, quantifiable and measurable: it doesn't become a matter of opinion just because there are three or four factors to consider holistically, weight being the most important in regards to martial arts (which is why there are weight categories rather than height categories). Whichever way you look at it, Wlad fought and KO'd much heavier and taller men on average than virtually all past greats, most of whom were size bullies themselves. Wlad was KO'd before Steward had perfected his methodical conservative style and he was only legitimately blasted out by Corrie Sanders: a 6'4, 225 lbs southpaw power-puncher. Having greater weight, frame, height and reach is a huge advantage as shown by the consistent domince of the big men but it doesn't make you invulnerable to heavy punches, especially if you're a bit chinny.

 

Yes way!

 

No size if sort of subjective. You have multiple factors so it depends on the what the person thinks matters more. Andy Ruiz weighed more than Joshua on the night but Joshua is significantly taller and more muscular so to the eye Aj looked bigger. Samuel Peter weighed more than Sanders but Sanders is taller so to the eye he might not look "bigger" than Corrie Sanders. Also 225lb Sanders was the hardest puncher Wladimir has ever fought in his own words, so much for size am i right.

If we can say Sanders was a power puncher then we can also say 6'5, 225 Cooney was a power puncher and Holmes took him out easily

 

I agree with everything besides weight being more important than length. Weight is more important in grappling based martial arts like wrestling and judo, in striking based martial arts length trumps weight. In boxing, length is more imporant.

 

Fury was not that great against Klitschko.
And Joshua barely survived him.

Joshua faced more sophisticated opponents than Fury did. I think he will KO Fury.

I don't believe that Fury can bully AJ like he did to Wilder. AJ is stronger, bigger and has better defense than Wilder.

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Pros:

• Bigger
• Trickier
• More aggressive
• Agile
• Has longer reach
• Better head movement

Cons:

• Lazy
• Undisciplined
• Weak chin
• Inexperienced
• Cherry picker

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Pros:

• Better boxing fundamentals
• Hardworking
• Better combinations
• Superb uppercut
• Experienced
• Stronger

Cons:

• Terrible stamina
• Glass chin
• Static
• Emotionally unbalanced
• Easily demoralized
• Broken by Andy Ruiz Jr

When you add all of these together, I think AJ will KO Fury.

 

i agree, and for various additional reasons as well.

 

Wlad just couldn't make the adjustments needed vs Fury and let him bank too many rounds, albeit close rounds that a hometown set of judges might have gave him. Was a poor fight from Wlad tbh. He should have closed the show vs Joshua. No doubt age played a part but he should never have lost that fight, definitely rate that performance way higher and one of best displays by a 40 something hw. Foreman's win in 94 being the gold standard but Joshua is a level above Moorer.

 

Wlad was coming from 10 years of domination over the hw division. Just for that alone Fury's victory means MUCH more. He was also inactive and 2 years older when he fought Joshua, and STILL he almost sent his head into Hearn's lap.