Mike Tyson vs Muhammad Ali, revisited

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"The Greatest" Muhammad Ali vs. "Iron" Mike Tyson

  1. Ali via Decision

    16 vote(s)
    27.1%
  2. Ali via KO/TKO/RTD

    22 vote(s)
    37.3%
  3. Ali via DQ

    1 vote(s)
    1.7%
  4. Tyson via decision

    3 vote(s)
    5.1%
  5. Tyson via KO/TKO/RTD

    15 vote(s)
    25.4%
  6. Tyson via DQ

    1 vote(s)
    1.7%
  7. Draw

    1 vote(s)
    1.7%
  8. NC

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Stiches Yarn

    Stiches Yarn Active Member Full Member

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    Ok man, so it was as bad as foreman's
     
  2. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't think it even was as bad as post-Zaire Foreman in all honesty. He never gassed against someone like Foreman did against Young until perhaps his last few fights. Certainly not before prison.

    His gas tank wasn't the problem against Douglas. It was that he was getting the crap beat out of him throughout the fight. It wasn't like it was an evenly contested fight until Tyson started to gas. He was just never in the fight, except for that brief moment in the 8th.
     
  3. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King Full Member

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    Ali by close decision in a thrilling back and forth war. If he gets in Tyson's head, Ali by TKO in 10.
     
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  4. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's just it, if Tyson wins the the majority if not all off the first 5 rounds then the fight is his and the questions shifts to if he can close the show early. If Ali is able to hold is own from round 1 and maintain competitiveness and get respect early then the dynamics of the fight may change.

    An interesting thing to imagine this scenario better is who would be the champion? Who is the challenger? Ali from which fight and Tyson from which fight?
     
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  5. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Don't know if it matters who's the champion and who's the challenger. When they both were at their most focussed and motivated, they brought out their best game in either case.
     
  6. KidDynamite

    KidDynamite Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Biggs looked decent in that first round against Tyson ... The difference is that Ali is the master of that style and a prime Ali could sustain it.
     
  7. cleglue1

    cleglue1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    After hearing Tyson's latest words on fighting Ali, coming back to this video is cool. Tyson was just as much of a legend in 1989 as he is today.
     
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  8. cleglue1

    cleglue1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I honestly think Tyson wouldn't participate much in the pre-fight trash talk, he would only entertain it briefly. He would probably come out beyond pissed during his ring walk.
     
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  9. UltimateDestroyer

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    I'd Pick Tyson. He's the worst possible match up for Ali.
     
  10. UltimateDestroyer

    UltimateDestroyer Member Full Member

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    He never really adjusted to Frazier, and Tyson is similar but better in pretty much every way, that said Ali wasn't prime any time he fought Frazier, he still struggles like Hell with Tyson's style. He was always susceptible to the left hook. I don't think he' be able to evade prime Mike's punches very well at all, he'd need his iron chin that's for sure.
     
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  11. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    This
     
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  12. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tyson didn't have anywhere near the stamina and workrate of even a past prime Frazier and Joe was also substantially stronger mentally (not that Tyson was weak, just that Joe was ****ing insane in that regard - the guy was as close to a human pitpull as you can get). And since those two are big parts of a boxer's quality I very much disagree that Tyson was better in pretty much every way.
     
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  13. KidDynamite

    KidDynamite Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Frazier had better intangibles

    Heart and mental strength ... He had no quit in him ...
     
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  14. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pre-Prison Mike was the same.
     
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  15. GOAT Primo Carnera

    GOAT Primo Carnera Member of the PC Fan Club Full Member

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    This debate as well as the poll is faded in a case of doubt against a fighter, who has never been seen in a situation he has to surpass in a fantasy situation, that was build to process happenings.

    Its like "Evander Holyfield vs Larry Holmes 15 rounds?" Answer: Larry TKO 14. Its nonsense.

    You can just judge what has been done.