Who Punched Harder: Deontay Wilder or Rocky Marciano?

So wilder stopped a guy faster than Vitali did despite having WORSE technique AND a broken hand?

You are not helping your case at all simpleton

I never once said that. I said Wilder's display of punching power is better than Vitali's. I have spelled this out for you 3x now but you keep creating straw man arguments.

You were full of adrenaline and did not know you had injured yourself.

Wilder knew his hand was broken. He frequently had hand injuries and has gotten surgery before. Yet he knocked his opponent out anyway.

I once bruised my hand and lost several layers of skin punching a fence and it hurt just squeezing my fist and doing light jabs at the heavybag. I cannot fathom having a broken hand and intentionally throwing with all my body weight into a punch over and over attempting to KO someone. That is a startling display of determination no matter how you slice it.

Point being he had a compromised hand and still stopped Areola faster than Vitali did with two healthy hands wailing away at Areola round after round with flush shots.

I never said it was a better win than Vitalis you idiot. You kept bringing that up on your own.

You are either a 14 year old girl or a grown man with the mind of a 14 year old girl.

 

Wilder knocked more people out with one shot than Shavers

 

And they both hit one HELL of a lot harder than Fury in my humble opinion.

 

But look at WHO Shavers knocked out. Did Wilder ever knock out anyone the level of Jimmy Young, or an even past it Jimmy Ellis? Those are just two examples.

 

Yes.

What is my case, exactly?

Bermane Stiverne is then clearly a bigger puncher than Wilder. Great logic, genius.

It's OK.

Point being that Vitali fought a healthy Arreola and Wilder fought a compromised Arreola.

Good. So we agree on that.

I find it embarrassing for you that you have been whooped by a 14 year old girl then.

 

I wasn't making Areola out to be some amazing opponent, but he was a durable one and wilder stopped him faster with a broken hand and worse technique than Vitali. It indicates Vitali had very mediocre power despite being healthy and having better technique than wilder.

Downplaying Wilder because you're a butthurt Klitschko fan.

I get the feeling you are incapable of responding without creating straw man arguments and spamming emojis.

Like a 14 year old.

Wilder was healthy?

Literally the only logical thing you've said in this entire thread. First it was claiming that Rocky cleverly picked his shots, now you want to make up your own arguments to defeat them.

Is that why several people have liked my posts and ignored yours in this thread?

 

OLD Vitali beat YOUNG Arreola.
YOUNG Wilder beat OLD Arreola.

Furthermore Arreola was a late replacement and took the fight with a couple weeks notice iirc. He didn't even have a proper camp

There's a difference in quality there, and it's not in Wilder's favour. See how that works?

Downplay him for what? He's not a patch on either Klitschko as a boxer. Wlad wrecked him in sparring. It's a known fact. All Wilder has is power and the first time he fought a good boxer in Ortiz he nearly got sparked and Fury really did spark him out. There's nothing to be butthurt about

You're saying Wilder hit harder than Vitali because he KO'd Arreola 2 rounds sooner, right?
Well Stiverne stopped Arreola in the 6th, 2 rounds sooner than Wilder.
Ergo, according to your brittle logic, Stiverne hits harder than Wilder. See how that works?

Yes. He bust his hand and bicep during the bout.

Try quoting me.

OMG I have 28000 Likes and you only have 6000, that must mean that I am a better man, both physically and mentally and with a bigger wanger than you! Surely that is what it means?

 

Damn it, i just made a simple comment and gave my own opinion about wilder and marciano's punching power here, but i didn't know it was coming to this!

 

I never said Wilder's win was a higher quality, I said he displayed more impressive power on screen.

You're either too dumb to get the difference or you're playing dumb on purpose. Either way I'm done explaining this.

If you agree wilder hits harder then why are you carrying on and on criticizing him on completely separate subjects? Everyone knows his resume isn't great, and neither is Vitali's for that matter since you insist on going off topic.

You clearly hate and get butthurt over wilder and it shows by you refusing to give him credit and constantly going off topic. And guess what? I don't not care. I'm just laughing at how you can't stay on subject for 5 minutes. All I said was wilder's power looked more impressive than Vitali's, which is an observable fact. Yet you couldn't just leave it at that you had to drag this on for pages attempting to outwit someone who is clearly more intelligent than you.

Did stiverne have a broken hand?

So in other words he wasn't healthy during the fight.

More 14 year old semantics and games.

I did. Multiple times and then you wrote "mOrE cLeVeR tHaN wIlDeR" you are still claiming he was clever in how he applied shots even if wilder is setting the bar low.

It's like saying a turtle is faster than a snail. It's a pretty dumb observation and doesn't really make the turtle look good.

I said "in this thread", you really do suck at reading comprehension.

You claimed you were whooping/owning me in this thread and yet my posts have gotten more likes in this thread. Your statement makes no sense. By no means are you owning me by creating straw man arguments, red herrings, ad hominems, and having horrible reading comprehension.

 

I personally think old, shot fighters are easier to KO than young, fresh ones. What do you think?

So you are playing dumb on purpose

I am just saying that the versions of Arreola Wilder and Vitali beat are not equivalent.

Wilder amuses me. What's even more amusing is his fans who thought he walked on water until he got stopped. Remember this:

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I give him credit for what's true about him. He has a huge punch and he has heart. He comes in fit for every match. He'd beat Francis Ngannou in a boxing match. After that, though, my praise starts to run thin.

And yet, here you are, still following me around like a lost pet

If you're that intelligent then you need to start showing it because all you've done thus far is embarrass yourself.

Wilder didn't have a broken hand either, until he messed it up.

WILDER BROKE HIS OWN HAND Wilder broke it and blew out his bicep because he punches like a spaz. So now we have to give him credit for tripping over himself?

Have I told you about how Vitali wasn't healthy during the fight with Byrd? Yeah, poor Vitali wasn't healthy during that fight. He was a sick man. This 14 year old is running rings around you.

No. You did not copy and paste. You repeated my words saying what you wanted them to say.

It's a comparison. You understand how that works, right?

Maybe if I said "Marciano punched less ******ed than Wilder" you'd understand?

You claim Likes are a source of validation. I'm happy to roll with that. You're clearly unhappy where your trail of tears has brought you to

 

Usually, yeah. It's also incredibly painful and difficult to punch with a broken hand.

In your case it's not an act.

I didn't say they were.

Yeah I remember fury covering up the camera in the dressing room and then getting brutally dropped twice with marks on his face claiming he won. No one in boxing history became champion after being dropped twice by the champion.

Not sure what Francis has to do with this discussion. I like wilder for those same reasons, an exciting athletic explosive puncher who lives and dies by the knockout. I can simply appreciate him for what he is. I know he's not some sort of atg.

Nope, just seeing how far down the rabbit hole goes. It's funny seeing people full of themselves talk trash as the air leaks out of them.

Embarrassing myself? My likes in this thread seem to indicate the contrary.

And this makes him stopping his granite chinned opponent with a broken hand less impressive somehow?

Yes, wilder is sloppy and injured himself with poor form. Do you want a pulitzer prize for making this observation? Everyone knows he's sloppy. The fact he hurt himself yet continued fighting is something praiseworthy yet you are turning it into something negative.

Wtf does Vitali vs byrd have to do with this discussion? Nowhere in my post did I blast Vitali for that injury.

You literally keep proving my point when I say you can't stay on topic. ADHD or more immature red herrings? Both?

You wrote that he was more clever in how he applied power than wilder which isn't saying much and is actually very debatable. Either way it's a very silly adjective to use to describe Rocky's fighting style no matter what the context.

Pretty silly comparison. I responded with one of my own so pretty darn obvious I understand what those are.

Rocky would literally stumble over and fall into the canvas because he swung like a drunk baseball player. I time stamped multiple moments in the fight with Louis showing how incredibly inaccurate he could be and that fight was pretty close or was in the middle of his prime.

I only brought up likes because you claimed you were owning me in this thread when multiple people apparently disagree with you. Likes aren't the end all be all, but you appear very delusional right now.

Unhappy? I will be graduating with my BA in the fall. I am literally on vacation eating delicious food and about to smash some African booty how's your life?

 

You've got a tiny slow-twitch plodder who, at his best, won over similarly small but much older opposition, mostly by attrition.

On the other side, you have a long-limbed, massively leveraged fast-twitch athlete who beat man-sized heavyweights, most of who were groomed since amateurs and had already faced massive, modern powerpunchers but declared this fighter to be in a different league.

 

Apparently, for some people it is.

Wow, so then you must be really down on the food chain, being owned by a dumb 14 year old.

If the versions of Arreola are not equivalent, then it's a little pointless to make claims about relative punching power, isn't it?

Fury won basically every round other than the ones he got dropped in. You know how to score, right? And that was FAT FARM FURY. Fit Fury demolished Wilder.

Some people were claiming Ngannou could beat Wilder in a boxing match And here's the sad thing: Wilder COULD have been an ATG with his attributes, if he learned how to box well and listened to his trainers.

The rabbit hole loops around and meets itself. I can do this for years

You realise that there's literally only the same two Marciano haters liking your posts in the entire thread, right? Likes are not a validation of an argument. At best they're an indication of a measure of popularity in a subset of the population. If I went and got more Likes than you on this thread, would it suddenly mean that I'm right and you're wrong? Because that's the absurd argument you are putting forth.

Stopping Arreola is fine. Fighting on with a bust hand is fine. But there's a difference between going into a match injured and injuring yourself during it.

I'm negative about his technique. It's fair criticism.

It's generally accepted that Vitali was healthy in the Byrd fight and that his loss to injury is legitimate. The same as Wilder was healthy in the Arreola fight.

Thank you. I like to be correctly quoted. Now instead of trying to set up strawmen about the matter, you could debate this debatable point. I happen to agree that it isn't saying that much, but since it's a Marciano vs Wilder power thread, it IS a tangentially relevant point.

Sometimes. The same can be said for Wilder, and more often so.

So if I suddenly have double the number of likes you have, will YOU be delusional? Come now.

Yeah, I'll give that a skip, thanks

 

Marciano is one of my favourite ever fighters & I don't believe that Wilder will ever see the day that he would be classed as a "greater" champion than Marciano, but the answer to the OP's question is simple; it's Wilder.

 

My opinion too.