Cleveland "Big Cat" Williams (1959) vs Ike "The President" Ibeabuchi (1997)

Ike via KO

 

Well Ike obviously.

 

Cleveland Williams both big and powerful. Sledgehammer power, Great athlete, I can't recall him ever losing a fight.
Williams would put this crazy ******* out of his misery inside 3 rounds. Ike would learn the hard way this isn't the same as playing Patty cake with David Tua.

 

Liston was the top of the division. According to him Williams the best punch he ever felt

 

I like Ike, the more durable of the two. Entertaining fight.

 

Big Cat by KO

 

Whaaaa? First of all, it is the opposite of reality to say that Ike & Tua were playing "pattycake".
I saw that fight on HBO at the time. They both threw tons of bombs.
They broke the @#$%&* HW record for most punches in a single fight!
These were not little flurries or a jab fest.
They both hit hard, Tua even more so.
Williams never absorbed nearly as much punishment in a single fight as Ike did.

Ike was considerably bigger overall than Williams.
Which is not determinsitic, & his HW foray was limited...
But with his size strength boxing ability chin & great workrate-& Williams a World Class fighter who often lost to The Best, I have to favor Ike.

About the first post here. Unlike Ike, if Tua was not the same after their fight, it does not seem to be from damage incurred. But a lazy mentality.

And I heard Foreman label Lyle Cooney & Williams as the hardest punchers he fought.
Not in any particular order.
The video is on youtube, David Letterman.

 

It was a slap fest. Ike wasn't punching with much force at all. He did jab well. Had he been hitting hard Tua would have stopped punching like he did in all is top level fights when he got buzzed.

 

Yeah got to go with Ike here even though he’s a what if?

We know Williams’s ceiling and I don’t think it is enough for a proven chin, skilled and powerful beast like Ibeabuchi.

No disrespect to either man though. Williams at least didn’t die wondering against Liston, so big props to him for that effort.

 

I do not consider myself skilled at scoring, but I believe you are totally wrong about Ike.
He alternated boxing with power punches, but it was no slap 'n tickle.
Which one of us should start a thread about it, linking the entire fight?

 

Williams wasn't that good.

The President gets elected here.

 

I gotta go with Ike.

 

Lol

 

And yet there was not a mark on either fighter.

look at the faces of Ali and Joe Frazier after their first fight for context. When good fighters land with full force lots of times they leave a Mark.

 

Sorry Williams fails to land a single punch, and Ike knocks him out brutally with the first punch he lands. Is that better now, or are you still butthurt?